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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	vincent.weaver@maine.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert 9fc2105aeaaf56b0cf75296a84702d0f9e64437b to fix pyaudio (and probably more)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:32:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150108163224.GU12302@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501081044470.26196@pianoman.cluster.toy>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 10:44:53AM -0500, Vince Weaver wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2015, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> 
> > It's not a regression - yet.  No one has shown that userspace has broken
> > according to the definition of the first quote above, and that's the
> > whole point.
> 
> How much does one have to regress before it is a problem?  I have two 
> projects I've worked on that "broke" due to this issue.  

If it's something which worked before and fails after, that's enough.

> They were minor breakages though.
> 
> The "linux_logo" userspace sysinfo tool broke to the extent that it 
> was parsing for the bogomips string in /proc/cpuinfo and printed poorly 
> formatted and/or corrupted text info to screen when it couldn't find it.
> 
> The "PAPI" library had some really ancient (and poorly 
> thought-out) fallback code that would try to estimate MHz from bogomips 
> if a MHz value was not available via the traditional methods.  This
> failed after the change too, but not many people use PAPI on ARM so it 
> wasn't that big an issue.
> 
> I noticed these problems early, even before the change hit mainline.
> But when I complained I was told in no uncertain terms that the ARM
> maintainers were tired of hearing about bogomips issues and nothing
> could be done to stop the change from getting in.

Sorry about that.

However, I'm having a hard time finding your report.  Do you have a
message id for the report?

For the record, I have no knowledge of this report having been made.

My linux-arm-kernel web archives bring up nothing either.

My mailbox record going back to the start of 2013 (which includes all
linux-arm-kernel mailing list traffic and any traffic to _this_ address,
and covers six months before the commit happened), I only have messages
with these subject lines authored by you:

2013:
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ARM ATTEND] catching up on exploit mitigations
Subject: Re: NSA310 + DT
2014:
Subject: Re: CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS and bcm2835_defconfig
Subject: Re: CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS and bcm2835_defconfig
Subject: Re: CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS and bcm2835_defconfig
Subject: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: Re: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: Re: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: Re: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: Re: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: Re: [bisected] broken make-kpkg kernel build in 3.15-rc1
Subject: [tip:perf/core] perf/ARM: Use common PMU interrupt disabled code

For the thread where the offending patch was posted in 2013, my mailbox
gives me:

4963     Jun 20 Will Deacon     (  36) [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: Remove any correlatio
4964     Jun 20 Will Deacon     (  67) ├─>[PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: delay: don't bothe
4965     Jun 20 Will Deacon     (  50) ├─>[PATCH v2 2/2] init: calibrate: don't
4966     Jun 20 Nicolas Pitre   (  27) ├─>Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: Remove any cor
4967     Jun 21 Will Deacon     (  29) │ └─>
4968     Jun 21 Marc Zyngier    (  27) └─>

Did you copy linux-arm-kernel with your report?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-08 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-04 19:01 Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:10   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:25     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:56         ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:20             ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 21:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 21:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 22:27                   ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-01-05  1:34                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-01-05 12:32                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05  4:51                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-05 12:11                   ` Will Deacon
2015-01-05 15:34                     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-05 16:24                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 18:11                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 19:00                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 19:36                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 20:34                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-07 20:53                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-07 21:15                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-09 22:54                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-07 22:14                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08  0:05                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:45                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:57                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  4:56                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  5:04                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  5:54                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 10:39                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 15:44                                   ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 16:19                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:34                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 16:41                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:57                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-08 17:01                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 17:39                                               ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 17:22                                             ` Vince Weaver
2015-01-08 22:46                                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-09  9:49                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 16:32                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <CA+55aFwuO2g1S-bY96V28crMWj+dKXWANzbP28JQjBdTg0rV0w@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 21:29                               ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                 ` <CA+55aFyrNE9qqBR9Khbj=TuAnjA+UzUhNxFz==SqKuiG5q3uMQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-07 22:42                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08  0:25                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-08  0:49                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 22:24                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-08 22:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 18:33         ` Will Deacon
2015-01-04 20:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 20:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-04 20:52       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-04 20:45     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-01-04 20:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-04 21:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-05 14:22           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-05 18:22             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 22:33               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-06 23:42                 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07  1:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-01-07 15:01                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-08 13:29                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-01-07  6:41                   ` Nicolas Pitre

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