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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Makarov <vmakarov@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Optimize variable_test_bit()
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 19:17:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150501171728.GD1657@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150501164639.GA19158@dyad.arnhem.chello.nl>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 06:33:29PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 09:03:32AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > PPS. Jakub, I see gcc5.1 still hasn't got output operands for asm goto;
> > > >      is this something we can get 'fixed' ?
> > 
> > CCing Richard as author of asm goto and Vlad as register allocator 
> > maintainer.  There are a few enhancement requests to support this, 
> > like http://gcc.gnu.org/PR59615 and http://gcc.gnu.org/PR52381 , 
> > but indeed the reason why no outputs are allowed is the register 
> > allocation issue. Don't know if LRA would be better suited to 
> > handle that case, but it would indeed be pretty hard.
> 
> So it would b awesome if we could use these freshly modeled flags as 
> output for regular asm stmts; that would obviate much of the asm 
> goto hackery we now do/have and allow gcc to pick the right branch 
> for likely/unlikely.

If I may hijack the discussion a bit: it would also be awesome if 
there was a GCC flag that would allow us to use __builtin_expect() 
hints even when automatic branch heuristics are disabled:

I.e. very similar to -fno-guess-branch-probability, just that explicit 
__builtin_expect() hints would not be ignored (like 
-fno-guess-branch-probability does it today).

We could use this to compress the kernel instruction cache footprint 
by about 5% on x86-64, while still having all the hand-made 
optimizations that __builtin_expect() allows us.

It would be a perfect solution if -fno-guess-branch-probability just 
stopped ignoring __builtin_expect().

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-01 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-01 15:16 Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 16:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:33   ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-05-01 16:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 16:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 17:17       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-01 19:02     ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-01 20:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 22:22         ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-02 12:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-04 15:37           ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 19:33           ` [RFC] Design for flag bit outputs from asms Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 20:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:27               ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:33               ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 20:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-04 20:57                   ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 21:23                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:35               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-04 20:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-05  9:01             ` Gabriel Paubert
2015-05-05 13:50             ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-05-05 15:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-05 16:10                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-05-02 12:43       ` [PATCH] x86: Optimize variable_test_bit() Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-04 18:07         ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-04 20:14           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra

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