From: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Vladimir Makarov <vmakarov@redhat.com>,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Design for flag bit outputs from asms
Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 13:33:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5547D7A3.2010203@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5547D30B.2020507@zytor.com>
On 05/04/2015 01:14 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 05/04/2015 12:33 PM, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>
>> (0) The C level output variable should be an integral type, from bool on up.
>>
>> The flags are a scarse resource, easily clobbered. We cannot allow user code
>> to keep data in the flags. While x86 does have lahf/sahf, they don't exactly
>> perform well. And other targets like arm don't even have that bad option.
>>
>> Therefore, the language level semantics are that the output is a boolean store
>> into the variable with a condition specified by a magic constraint.
>>
>> That said, just like the compiler should be able to optimize
>>
>> void bar(int y)
>> {
>> int x = (y <= 0);
>> if (x) foo();
>> }
>>
>> such that we only use a single compare against y, the expectation is that
>> within a similarly constrained context the compiler will not require two tests
>> for these boolean outputs.
>>
>> Therefore:
>>
>> (1) Each target defines a set of constraint strings,
>>
>> E.g. for x86, wherein we're almost out of constraint letters,
>>
>> ja aux carry flag
>> jc carry flag
>> jo overflow flag
>> jp parity flag
>> js sign flag
>> jz zero flag
>>
>
> I would argue that for x86 what you actually want is to model the
> *conditions* that are available on the flags, not the flags themselves.
> There are 16 such conditions, 8 if we discard the inversions.
A fair point. Though honestly, I was hoping that this feature would mostly be
used for conditions that are "weird" -- that is, not normally describable by
arithmetic at all. Otherwise, why are you using inline asm for it?
> It is notable that the auxiliary carry flag has no Jcc/SETcc/CMOVcc
> instructions; it is only ever consumed by the DAA/DAS instructions which
> makes it pointless to try to model it in a compiler any more than, say, IF.
Oh yeah. Consider that dropped.
r~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-04 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-01 15:16 [PATCH] x86: Optimize variable_test_bit() Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 16:33 ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-05-01 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 16:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-01 17:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-01 19:02 ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-01 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-01 22:22 ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-02 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-04 15:37 ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 19:33 ` [RFC] Design for flag bit outputs from asms Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 20:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:33 ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2015-05-04 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-04 20:57 ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-04 21:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 20:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-04 20:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-05 9:01 ` Gabriel Paubert
2015-05-05 13:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-05-05 15:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-05 16:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-05-02 12:43 ` [PATCH] x86: Optimize variable_test_bit() Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-04 18:07 ` Vladimir Makarov
2015-05-04 20:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-04 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
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