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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:09:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018110954.GX3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCj-Jp2RLryAGkeWv8sw55n130hX5fWO-3mopgej6+4qQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:41:36AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:

> ok. In fact, I have noticed another regression with tip/sched/core and
> hackbench while looking at yours.
> I have bisect to :
> 10e2f1acd0 ("sched/core: Rewrite and improve select_idle_siblings")
> 
> hackbench -P -g 1
> 
>        v4.8        tip/sched/core  tip/sched/core+revert 10e2f1acd010
> and 1b568f0aabf2
> min 0.051       0,052               0.049
> avg 0.057(0%)   0,062(-7%)   0.056(+1%)
> max 0.070       0,073      0.067
> stdev  +/-8%       +/-10%    +/-9%
> 
> The issue seems to be that it prevents some migration at wake up at
> the end of hackbench test so we have last tasks that compete for the
> same CPU whereas other CPUs are idle in the same MC domain. I haven't
> to look more deeply which part of the patch do the regression yet

So select_idle_cpu(), which does the LLC wide CPU scan is now throttled
by a comparison between avg_cost and avg_idle; where avg_cost is a
historical measure of how costly it was to scan the entire LLC domain
and avg_idle is our current idle time guestimate (also a historical
average).

The problem was that a number of workloads were spending quite a lot of
time here scanning CPUs while they could be doing useful work (esp.
since newer parts have silly amounts of CPUs per LLC).

The toggle is a heuristic with a random number in.. we could see if
there's anything better we can do. I know some people take the toggle
out entirely, but that will regress other workloads.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-18 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-23 11:58 Matt Fleming
2016-09-23 14:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-27 13:48   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-27 19:24     ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-27 19:21   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:06   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:31       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:46         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 12:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 21:25             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-04 20:16           ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 12:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 13:13           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-29 16:15             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-03 13:05               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 17:59       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 19:37   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-30 20:30     ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  3:39     ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-10 10:01       ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 10:09         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-11 10:27           ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 12:29         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-10 13:54           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-10 18:29             ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11  9:44               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-11 10:39                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 10:11                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 17:34           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 10:24             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-11 13:14               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 18:57                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-12  7:41                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 11:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-10-18 15:19                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 10:29               ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 11:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 11:29                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 12:15                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19  6:38                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19  9:53                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-09 16:53                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 20:11   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  5:57 ` [lkp] [sched/fair] f54c5d4e28: hackbench.throughput 10.6% improvement kernel test robot

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