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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 18:59:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b50a9fe5-41af-d690-3fec-39434eb7c1ae@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160928111912.GU5016@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 28/09/16 12:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:06:43PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>> On 28/09/16 11:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:58:08PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:

[...]

>> I'm afraid that with accurate timing we will get the same situation that
>> we add and subtract the same amount of load (probably 1024 now and not
>> 1002 (or less)) to/from cfs_rq->runnable_load_avg for the initial (fork)
>> hackbench run.
>> After all, it's 'runnable' based.
> 
> The idea was that since we now update rq clock before post_init and then
> leave it be, both post_init and enqueue see the exact same timestamp,
> and the delta is 0, resulting in no aging.
> 
> Or did I fail to make that happen?

No, you're right the task load ages from 1024 (enqueue) to something
between 1002 and 1024 in (dequeue) for the initial fork-phase.

The call to __update_load_avg() in enqueue_task_fair() is now always
done with 'delta = now - sa->last_update_time' equal 0 so we bail out.

The following call to __update_load_avg() (from dequeue_task_fair(), or
set_next_entity() or even task_tick_fair()) let us enter the 'decayed =
1' path (even for a short runtime (>1us) since the initial value for
period_contrib is 1023 and with the initial values of load_avg=1024 and
load_sum = 1024*47742 = 48,887,808 (and a runtime < 1001us, so contrib
stays 0) we end up decaying load_avg to something between 1002 and 1024.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-28 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-23 11:58 Matt Fleming
2016-09-23 14:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-27 13:48   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-27 19:24     ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-27 19:21   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:06   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:31       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:46         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 12:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 21:25             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-04 20:16           ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 12:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 13:13           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-29 16:15             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-03 13:05               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 17:59       ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2016-09-28 19:37   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-30 20:30     ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  3:39     ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-10 10:01       ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 10:09         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-11 10:27           ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 12:29         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-10 13:54           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-10 18:29             ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11  9:44               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-11 10:39                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 10:11                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 17:34           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 10:24             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-11 13:14               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 18:57                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-12  7:41                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 11:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 15:19                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 10:29               ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 11:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 11:29                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 12:15                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19  6:38                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19  9:53                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-09 16:53                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 20:11   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  5:57 ` [lkp] [sched/fair] f54c5d4e28: hackbench.throughput 10.6% improvement kernel test robot

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