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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:15:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82167f6a-2d97-d3ab-35eb-4d4fa0c62bd9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160928131309.GA5483@vingu-laptop>

On 28/09/16 14:13, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Le Wednesday 28 Sep 2016 à 05:27:54 (-0700), Vincent Guittot a écrit :
>> On 28 September 2016 at 04:31, Dietmar Eggemann
>> <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>> On 28/09/16 12:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:06:43PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>>>>> On 28/09/16 11:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:58:08PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:

[...]

> IIUC the problem raised by Matt, he see a regression because we now remove
> during the dequeue the exact same load as during the enqueue so
> cfs_rq->runnable_load_avg is null so we select a cfs_rq that might already have
> a lot of hackbench blocked thread.

This is my understanding as well.

> The fact that runnable_load_avg is null, when the cfs_rq doesn't have runnable
> task, is quite correct and we should keep it. But when we look for the idlest
> group, we have to take into account the blocked thread.
> 
> That's what i have tried to do below

[...]

> +		/*
> +		 * In case that we have same runnable load (especially null
> +		 *  runnable load), we select the group with smallest blocked
> +		 *  load
> +		 */
> +			min_avg_load = avg_load;
> +			min_runnable_load = runnable_load;

Setting 'min_runnable_load' wouldn't be necessary here.

>  			idlest = group;
>  		}
> +
>  	} while (group = group->next, group != sd->groups);
>  
> -	if (!idlest || 100*this_load < imbalance*min_load)
> +	if (!idlest || 100*this_load < imbalance*min_runnable_load)
>  		return NULL;
>  	return idlest;

On the Hikey board (ARM64) (2 cluster, each 4 cpu's, so MC and DIE), the
first f_i_g (on DIE) is still based on rbl_load. So if the first
hackbench task (spawning all the worker task) runs on cluster1, and the
former worker p_X already blocks f_i_g returns cluster2, if p_X still
runs, it returns idlest=NULL and we continue with cluster1 for second
f_i_g on MC.

The additional 'else if' condition doesn't seem to help much because of
occurrences where an idle cpu (which never took a worker) still has a
small value of rbl_load (shouldn't actually happen, weighted_cpuload()
should be 0) so it is never chosen or it has even a negative impact in
the case where an idle cpu (which never took a worker) is not chosen
because its load (cfs->avg.load_avg) hasn't been updated for a long time
so another cpu with rbl_load = 0 and a smaller load is used (even though
a lot of worker where already placed on it).

There are also episodes where we 'pack' workers onto the cpu which is
initially picked in f_i_c (on DIE) because (100*this_load <
imbalance*min_load) is true in f_i_g on MC. Maybe we can get rid of this
for !sd->child ?

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-23 11:58 Matt Fleming
2016-09-23 14:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-27 13:48   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-27 19:24     ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-27 19:21   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:06   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:31       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:46         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 12:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 21:25             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-04 20:16           ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 12:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 13:13           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-29 16:15             ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2016-10-03 13:05               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 17:59       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 19:37   ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-30 20:30     ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  3:39     ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-10 10:01       ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 10:09         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-11 10:27           ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 12:29         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-10 13:54           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-10 18:29             ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11  9:44               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-11 10:39                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 10:11                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 17:34           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 10:24             ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-11 13:14               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 18:57                 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-12  7:41                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 11:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 15:19                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 10:29               ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 11:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 11:29                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 12:15                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19  6:38                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19  9:53                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-09 16:53                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 20:11   ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09  5:57 ` [lkp] [sched/fair] f54c5d4e28: hackbench.throughput 10.6% improvement kernel test robot

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