From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe()
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:14:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190118211401.4komqsnvuof7563p@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190117122253.GC5023@zn.tnic>
tl;dr
The kernel saves task's FPU registers on user's signal stack before
entering the signal handler. Can we avoid that and have in-kernel memory
for that? Does someone rely on the FPU registers from the task in the
signal handler?
On 2019-01-17 13:22:53 [+0100], Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > The task is running and using FPU registers. Then an evil mind sends a
> > signal. The task goes into kernel, prepares itself and is about to
> > handle the signal in userland. It saves its FPU registers on the stack
> > frame. It zeros its current FPU registers (ready for a fresh start),
> > loads the address of the signal handler and returns to user land
> > handling the signal.
> >
> > Now. The signal handler may use FPU registers and the signal handler
> > maybe be preempted so you need to save the FPU registers of the signal
> > handler and you can't mix them up with the FPU register's of the task
> > (before it started handling the signal).
> >
> > So in order to avoid a second FPU struct it saves them on user's stack
> > frame. I *think* this (avoiding a second FPU struct) is the primary
> > motivation.
>
> Yah, makes sense. Sounds like something we'd do :-)
>
> > A bonus point might be that the signal handler has a third
> > argument the `context'. That means you can use can access the task's FPU
> > registers from the signal handler. Not sure *why* you want to do so but
> > yo can.
>
> For <raisins>.
>
> > I can't imagine a use case and I was looking for a user and expecting it
> > to be glibc but I didn't find anything in the glibc that would explain
> > it. Intel even defines a few bytes as "user reserved" which are used by
> > "struct _fpx_sw_bytes" to add a marker in the signal and recognise it on
> > restore.
> > The only user that seems to make use of that is `criu' (or it looked
> > like it does use it). I would prefer to add a second struct-FPU and use
> > that for the signal handler. This would avoid the whole dance here.
>
> That would be interesting from the perspective of making the code
> straight-forward and not having to document all that dance somewhere.
>
> > And `criu' could maybe become a proper interface. I don't think as of
> > now that it will break something in userland if the signal handler
> > suddenly does not have a pointer to the FPU struct.
>
> Well, but allocating a special FPU pointer for the signal handler
> context sounds simple and clean, no? Or are we afraid that that would
> slowdown signal handling, the whole allocation and assignment and
> stuff...?
So I *think* we could allocate a second struct fpu for the signal
handler at task creation time and use it.
It should not slow-down signal handling. So instead saving it to user's
stack we would save it to "our" memory. On the restore path we could
trust our buffer and simply load it again.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-18 21:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-09 11:47 [PATCH v6] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 01/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in __fpu__restore_sig() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-14 16:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 10:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 02/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu__restore() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 03/22] x86/fpu: Remove preempt_disable() in fpu__clear() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-14 18:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 04/22] x86/fpu: Always init the `state' " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-14 19:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 05/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-16 19:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-16 22:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-17 12:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-18 21:14 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2019-01-18 21:17 ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-18 21:37 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-18 21:43 ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-21 11:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-01-22 13:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-22 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-01-22 17:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 11:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-05 11:17 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-26 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-03-08 18:12 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-05 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/22 v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 06/22] x86/fpu: Don't save fxregs for ia32 frames " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-24 11:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 16:43 ` [PATCH 06/22 v2] x86/fpu: Don't save fxregs for ia32 frames in Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 07/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-24 13:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 18:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-06 14:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 10:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-07 10:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 18:06 ` [PATCH 07/22 v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 08/22] x86/fpu: Remove user_fpu_begin() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-25 15:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-05 18:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 09/22] x86/fpu: Add (__)make_fpregs_active helpers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-28 18:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 10:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 9:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-14 14:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 10/22] x86/fpu: Make __raw_xsave_addr() use feature number instead of mask Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-28 18:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 11/22] x86/fpu: Make get_xsave_field_ptr() and get_xsave_addr() " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-28 18:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 11:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 9:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 12/22] x86/fpu: Only write PKRU if it is different from current Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-23 18:09 ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-07 11:27 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 13/22] x86/pkeys: Don't check if PKRU is zero before writting it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 14/22] x86/fpu: Eager switch PKRU state Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 15/22] x86/entry: Add TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 11:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 11:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 9:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-14 15:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 16/22] x86/fpu: Always store the registers in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 11:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 13:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 17/22] x86/fpu: Prepare copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() for TIF_NEED_FPU_LOAD Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 11:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-30 12:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 12:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-07 14:10 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 18/22] x86/fpu: Update xstate's PKRU value on write_pkru() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-23 17:28 ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 19/22] x86/fpu: Inline copy_user_to_fpregs_zeroing() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 20/22] x86/fpu: Let __fpu__restore_sig() restore the !32bit+fxsr frame from kernel memory Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 21:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 21/22] x86/fpu: Merge the two code paths in __fpu__restore_sig() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-09 11:47 ` [PATCH 22/22] x86/fpu: Defer FPU state load until return to userspace Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-31 9:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-15 12:44 ` [PATCH v6] x86: load FPU registers on return to userland David Laight
2019-01-15 13:15 ` 'Sebastian Andrzej Siewior'
2019-01-15 14:33 ` David Laight
2019-01-15 19:46 ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-15 20:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-15 20:54 ` Dave Hansen
2019-01-15 21:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-16 10:31 ` David Laight
2019-01-16 10:18 ` David Laight
2019-01-30 11:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-30 12:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-01-30 12:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-08 13:12 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-13 15:54 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-21 11:49 [PATCH v7] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-02-21 11:50 ` [PATCH 05/22] x86/fpu: Remove fpu->initialized usage in copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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