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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] x86/umwait: Enable user wait instructions
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:01:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190611090145.GU3436@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1559944837-149589-1-git-send-email-fenghua.yu@intel.com>

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 03:00:32PM -0700, Fenghua Yu wrote:
> Today, if an application needs to wait for a very short duration
> they have to have spinloops. Spinloops consume more power and continue
> to use execution resources that could hurt its thread siblings in a core
> with hyperthreads. New instructions umonitor, umwait and tpause allow
> a low power alternative waiting at the same time could improve the HT
> sibling perform while giving it any power headroom. These instructions
> can be used in both user space and kernel space.
> 
> A new MSR IA32_UMWAIT_CONTROL allows kernel to set a time limit in
> TSC-quanta that prevents user applications from waiting for a long time.
> This allows applications to yield the CPU and the user application
> should consider using other alternatives to wait.

I'm confused on the purpose of this control; what do we win by limiting
this time?

>  .../ABI/testing/sysfs-devices-system-cpu      |  21 ++
>  arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h            |   1 +
>  arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h              |   4 +
>  arch/x86/power/Makefile                       |   1 +
>  arch/x86/power/umwait.c                       | 182 ++++++++++++++++++

You seem to miss the arch/x86/lib/delay.c change to use this fancy new
stuff for udelay(). I'm thinking that's exactly what TPAUSE is good for.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-11  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-07 22:00 Fenghua Yu
2019-06-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate " Fenghua Yu
2019-06-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86/umwait: Initialize umwait control values Fenghua Yu
2019-06-08 22:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-10  4:13     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-10  4:27       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-11 20:46       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-17 20:46         ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18  5:43           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-11  8:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-11 17:04     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] x86/umwait: Add sysfs interface to control umwait C0.2 state Fenghua Yu
2019-06-08 22:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-10  3:53     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-10  4:24       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-10  6:02         ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-10 13:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-17 20:27             ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-17 23:02               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-17 23:11                 ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-17 23:41                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-18  0:00                     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-18  0:19                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-18  2:32                         ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-08 22:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-10  4:04     ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-10  4:26       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-17 22:48         ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-17 22:59           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-17 22:51             ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-11  8:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-11 16:04     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-11 17:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-17 15:14         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-17 18:11           ` Fenghua Yu
2019-06-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86/umwait: Add sysfs interface to control umwait maximum time Fenghua Yu
2019-06-07 22:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86/umwait: Document umwait control sysfs interfaces Fenghua Yu
2019-06-11  9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-06-11 17:37   ` [PATCH v4 0/5] x86/umwait: Enable user wait instructions Fenghua Yu
2019-06-17 14:19     ` Peter Zijlstra

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