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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	'Eric Dumazet' <edumazet@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Subject: Re: Confused about hlist_unhashed_lockless()
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 16:02:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200203160227.GA7274@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200203155839.GK2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 07:58:39AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 03:45:54PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Eric Dumazet
> > > Sent: 31 January 2020 18:53
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:48 AM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > This is nice, now with have data_race()
> > > >
> > > > Remember these patches were sent 2 months ago, at a time we were
> > > > trying to sort out things.
> > > >
> > > > data_race() was merged a few days ago.
> > > 
> > > Well, actually data_race() is not there yet anyway.
> > 
> > Shouldn't it be NO_DATA_RACE() ??
> 
> No, because you use data_race() when there really are data races, but you
> want KCSAN to ignore them.  For example, diagnostic code that doesn't
> participate in the actual concurrency design and that doesn't run all
> that often might use data_race().  For another example, if a developer
> knew that data races existed, but that the compiler could not reasonably
> do anything untoward with those data races, that developer might well
> choose to use data_race() instead of READ_ONCE().  Especially if the
> access in question was on a fastpath where helpful compiler optimizations
> would be prohibited by use of READ_ONCE().

Yes, and in this particular case I think we can remove some WRITE_ONCE()s
from the non-RCU hlist code too (similarly for hlist_nulls).

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-03 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31 16:43 Will Deacon
2020-01-31 16:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 16:57   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 17:06     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 17:20       ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 17:33         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 18:32           ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 19:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-31 20:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 18:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-31 18:48     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 18:52       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 20:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 21:04           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 21:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 15:45         ` David Laight
2020-02-03 15:54           ` Marco Elver
2020-02-03 16:05             ` David Laight
2020-02-03 17:25               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 15:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 16:02             ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-02-03 17:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 18:27                 ` Will Deacon
2020-02-03 21:16                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 19:20       ` Marco Elver
2020-01-31 18:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 18:55     ` Eric Dumazet

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