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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: 'Marco Elver' <elver@google.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Confused about hlist_unhashed_lockless()
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 09:25:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200203172554.GL2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154c51cc385544789c9fa0b233fc76e7@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 04:05:25PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Marco Elver
> > Sent: 03 February 2020 15:55
> > 
> > On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 16:45, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Eric Dumazet
> > > > Sent: 31 January 2020 18:53
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:48 AM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is nice, now with have data_race()
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember these patches were sent 2 months ago, at a time we were
> > > > > trying to sort out things.
> > > > >
> > > > > data_race() was merged a few days ago.
> > > >
> > > > Well, actually data_race() is not there yet anyway.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't it be NO_DATA_RACE() ??
> > 
> > Various options were considered, and based on feedback from Linus,
> > decided 'data_race(..)' is the best option:
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/CAHk-
> > =wg5CkOEF8DTez1Qu0XTEFw_oHhxN98bDnFqbY7HL5AB2g@mail.gmail.com/
> > 
> > It's meant to be as unobtrusive as possible, and an all-caps macro was
> > ruled out.
> 
> Except that it then looks like something that actually does something.
> 
> > Second, the "NO_" prefix would be incorrect, since it'd be the
> > opposite of what it is. The macro is meant to document and mark a
> > deliberate data race.
> 
> It should be IGNORE_DATA_RACE() then.

People will get used to the name more quickly than they will get used
to typing the extra seven characters.  Here is the current comment header:

/*
 * data_race(): macro to document that accesses in an expression may conflict with
 * other concurrent accesses resulting in data races, but the resulting
 * behaviour is deemed safe regardless.
 *
 * This macro *does not* affect normal code generation, but is a hint to tooling
 * that data races here should be ignored.
 */

I will be converting this to docbook form.

In addition, in the KCSAN documentation:

* KCSAN understands the ``data_race(expr)`` annotation, which tells KCSAN that
  any data races due to accesses in ``expr`` should be ignored and resulting
  behaviour when encountering a data race is deemed safe.

Fair enough?

								Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-03 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31 16:43 Will Deacon
2020-01-31 16:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 16:57   ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 17:06     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 17:20       ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 17:33         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 18:32           ` Will Deacon
2020-01-31 19:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-31 20:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 18:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-31 18:48     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 18:52       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 20:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 21:04           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-01-31 21:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 15:45         ` David Laight
2020-02-03 15:54           ` Marco Elver
2020-02-03 16:05             ` David Laight
2020-02-03 17:25               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-02-03 15:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 16:02             ` Will Deacon
2020-02-03 17:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-03 18:27                 ` Will Deacon
2020-02-03 21:16                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 19:20       ` Marco Elver
2020-01-31 18:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-31 18:55     ` Eric Dumazet

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