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From: peterz@infradead.org
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bristot@redhat.com, swood@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched: Fix balance_callback()
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 14:25:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200911122547.GI1362448@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jhjsgbo5wzl.mognet@arm.com>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 01:17:02PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 11/09/20 09:17, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > The intent of balance_callback() has always been to delay executing
> > balancing operations until the end of the current rq->lock section.
> > This is because balance operations must often drop rq->lock, and that
> > isn't safe in general.
> >
> > However, as noted by Scott, there were a few holes in that scheme;
> > balance_callback() was called after rq->lock was dropped, which means
> > another CPU can interleave and touch the callback list.
> >
> 
> So that can be say __schedule() tail racing with some setprio; what's the
> worst that can (currently) happen here? Something like say two consecutive
> enqueuing of push_rt_tasks() to the callback list?

Yeah, but that isn't in fact the case I worry most about.

What can happen (and what I've spotted once before) is that someone
attempts to enqueue a balance_callback from a rq->lock region that
doesn't handle the calls.

Currently that 'works', that is, it will get ran _eventually_. But
ideally we'd want that to not work and issue a WARN. We want the
callbacks to be timely.

So basically all of these machinations we in order to add the WARN :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-11 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-11  8:17 [PATCH 0/2] sched: migrate_disable() preparations Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-11  8:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched: Fix balance_callback() Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-11 12:17   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-11 12:25     ` peterz [this message]
2020-09-11 13:27       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-11  8:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/hotplug: Ensure only per-cpu kthreads run during hotplug Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-11 12:17   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-11 12:29     ` peterz
2020-09-11 13:48       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-16 10:18   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-09-16 12:10     ` peterz
2020-09-16 13:58       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-09-16 14:07         ` peterz

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