From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
x86@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section"
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 00:35:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231011223513.GH6307@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231011162843.grv6kixw4ides6uw@treble>
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 09:28:43AM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 09:41:42AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > +++ b/tools/objtool/check.c
> > > @@ -1610,6 +1610,15 @@ static int add_jump_destinations(struct objtool_file *file)
> > > return -1;
> > > }
> > >
> > > + /*
> > > + * Since retpolines are in the same section as the return
> > > + * thunk, they might not use a relocation when branching to it.
> > > + */
> > > + if (jump_dest->sym && jump_dest->sym->return_thunk) {
> > > + add_return_call(file, insn, true);
> > > + continue;
> > > + }
> >
> > *urgh*... I mean, yes, that obviously works, but should we not also have
> > the retpoline thingy for consistency? That case makes less sense though
> > :/
>
> Consistency with what?
the reloc case; specifically, I was thinking something along these
lines:
if (jump-dest->sym && jump_dest->sym->retpoline_thunk) {
add_retpoline_call(file, insn);
continue;
}
Then both reloc and immediate versions are more or less the same.
> The extra section seems pointless but maybe I'm missing something.
By having the section things are better delineated I suppose, be it
retpolines or rethunks, all references should be to inside the section
(and thus have a reloc) while within the section there should never be a
reference to itself.
I'm not sure it's worth much, but then we can have the above two cases
issue a WARN instead of fixing it up.
I don't care too deeply, I can't make up my mind either way. But perhaps
keeping the section is easier on all the backports, it's easy to forget
a tiny objtool patch like this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-11 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 17:10 [PATCH 0/3] Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-10 19:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-10 20:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:40 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-10 21:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 9:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-11 16:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-11 22:35 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-10-11 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 2:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 2:47 ` [PATCH v2] objtool: Fix return thunk patching in retpolines Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 6:25 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 8:16 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 8:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/vdso: Run objtool on vdso32-setup David Kaplan
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/vdso: Run objtool on vdso32-setup.o tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime David Kaplan
2023-10-10 19:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:14 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-10 20:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 14:10 ` [PATCH -v2] " Borislav Petkov
2023-10-12 17:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-16 21:10 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-16 21:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 21:48 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-17 4:31 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-17 5:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-17 13:54 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-17 15:24 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-10-17 15:26 ` Marco Elver
2023-10-17 15:32 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-17 16:59 ` [PATCH] x86/srso: Fix panic in return thunk during boot Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-17 17:52 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Make sure there are no unconverted return thunks due to KCSAN tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 13:23 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 13:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-18 15:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 15:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 17:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 18:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 18:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 18:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 18:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 19:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 20:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 6:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-19 6:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-19 14:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 14:21 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-19 14:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 15:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-24 20:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-03 18:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:24 ` [PATCH -v2] " Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-07 17:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-07 18:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-07 19:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-12 10:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 17:10 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-03 17:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 20:26 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-03 20:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 22:25 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-04 14:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-16 9:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-17 3:59 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-17 16:20 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/retpolines: Enable the default thunk warning only on relevant configs tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2023-10-19 7:43 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 9:40 ` [tip: x86/bugs] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2023-10-19 9:40 ` [tip: x86/bugs] Revert "x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime" tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2024-10-04 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-02-12 14:13 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-15 3:20 ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-02-15 8:30 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-02-15 15:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-16 5:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-16 21:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-20 5:57 ` [PATCH] x86/vdso: Fix rethunk patching for vdso-image-{32,64}.o Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-20 12:31 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/3] Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-20 11:28 ` Subject: [PATCH] x86/retpoline: Document some thunk handling aspects (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime) Borislav Petkov
2023-10-20 11:37 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Document some thunk handling aspects tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
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