From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Kaplan, David" <David.Kaplan@amd.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 09:50:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240207175010.nrr34b2pp3ewe3ga@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240104132623.GFZZax/wyf5Y3rMX5G@fat_crate.local>
On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 02:26:23PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 02:24:46PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > +void __warn_thunk(void)
> > +{
> > + pr_warn_once("\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("**********************************************************\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("** NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE **\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("** **\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("** Unpatched return thunk in use. This should not **\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("** happen on a production kernel. Please report this **\n");
> > + pr_warn_once("** to x86@kernel.org. **\n");
>
> I'm not yet sure here whether this should say "upstream kernels" because
> otherwise we'll get a bunch of distro or whatnot downstream kernels
> reports where we can't really do anything about...
>
> Hmmm.
At the very least, the dump_stack() should be a WARN_ON_ONCE().
Otherwise this is actually *more* likely to be ignored since automated
tools don't have a way to catch it: no taint, no "WARNING" string, no
panic_on_warn, etc.
But also, I'm not a fan of the banner. A warning is enough IMO.
Many/most warnings can be "security" issues. A production server which
ignores warnings/taints/etc would be a much bigger problem.
And as you say, there are many frankenkernels out there and upstream
doesn't want to be in the business of debugging them.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-07 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 17:10 [PATCH 0/3] " David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-10 19:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-10 20:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:40 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-10 21:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 9:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-11 16:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-11 22:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-11 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 2:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 2:47 ` [PATCH v2] objtool: Fix return thunk patching in retpolines Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 6:25 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 8:16 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 8:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/vdso: Run objtool on vdso32-setup David Kaplan
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/vdso: Run objtool on vdso32-setup.o tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-10 17:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime David Kaplan
2023-10-10 19:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 20:14 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-10 20:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 14:10 ` [PATCH -v2] " Borislav Petkov
2023-10-12 17:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 17:50 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2023-10-16 21:10 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-16 21:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 21:48 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-17 4:31 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-17 5:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-17 13:54 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-17 15:24 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-10-17 15:26 ` Marco Elver
2023-10-17 15:32 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-10-17 16:59 ` [PATCH] x86/srso: Fix panic in return thunk during boot Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-17 17:52 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Make sure there are no unconverted return thunks due to KCSAN tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-20 11:37 ` tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 13:23 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 13:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-18 15:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 15:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 17:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 18:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 18:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 18:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 18:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 19:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-18 20:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 6:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-19 6:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-19 14:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 14:21 ` Kaplan, David
2023-10-19 14:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-19 15:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-24 20:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-03 18:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:24 ` [PATCH -v2] " Borislav Petkov
2024-01-04 13:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-07 17:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2024-02-07 18:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-07 19:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-12 10:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 17:10 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-03 17:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 20:26 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-03 20:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-03 22:25 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-04 14:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-16 9:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-17 3:59 ` Klara Modin
2024-04-17 16:20 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/retpolines: Enable the default thunk warning only on relevant configs tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2023-10-19 7:43 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 9:40 ` [tip: x86/bugs] Revert "x86/retpoline: Remove .text..__x86.return_thunk section" tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2023-10-19 9:40 ` [tip: x86/bugs] Revert "x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime" tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2024-10-04 19:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-02-12 14:13 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-15 3:20 ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-02-15 8:30 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-02-15 15:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-16 5:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-16 21:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-20 5:57 ` [PATCH] x86/vdso: Fix rethunk patching for vdso-image-{32,64}.o Josh Poimboeuf
2024-02-20 12:31 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-10 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/3] Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-20 11:28 ` Subject: [PATCH] x86/retpoline: Document some thunk handling aspects (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime) Borislav Petkov
2023-10-20 11:37 ` [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Document some thunk handling aspects tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
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