Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

[Bagas Sanjaya]

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Hi,

Let's say that there is a contributor who wish to send a patch set (e.g.
20-30 patches in the series) to LKML. But instead of sending the full
series, he either do one of the following:

* Send only the cover letter (analogous to movie trailers)
* Send only a few arbitrary patches in a series that are most important
  (e.g. patch [01,04,11,18,23/30]) (analogous to match highlights)
* Send only the first few patches in a series (i.e. subject of one of
  patches says [09/30]) (analogous to sample book chapters)

The rest of patches are behind closed doors (i.e. not sent), possibly
behind charm-priced (pay)walls.

Is the submission like above acceptable (when in review)?

Thanks.

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Re: Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

[Greg Kroah-Hartman]

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 09:20:45PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Let's say that there is a contributor who wish to send a patch set (e.g.
> 20-30 patches in the series) to LKML. But instead of sending the full
> series, he either do one of the following:
> 
> * Send only the cover letter (analogous to movie trailers)
> * Send only a few arbitrary patches in a series that are most important
>   (e.g. patch [01,04,11,18,23/30]) (analogous to match highlights)
> * Send only the first few patches in a series (i.e. subject of one of
>   patches says [09/30]) (analogous to sample book chapters)
> 
> The rest of patches are behind closed doors (i.e. not sent), possibly
> behind charm-priced (pay)walls.
> 
> Is the submission like above acceptable (when in review)?

No, kernel development is done in public.

Re: Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

[Bagas Sanjaya]

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 08:37:10PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 09:20:45PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Let's say that there is a contributor who wish to send a patch set (e.g.
> > 20-30 patches in the series) to LKML. But instead of sending the full
> > series, he either do one of the following:
> > 
> > * Send only the cover letter (analogous to movie trailers)
> > * Send only a few arbitrary patches in a series that are most important
> >   (e.g. patch [01,04,11,18,23/30]) (analogous to match highlights)
> > * Send only the first few patches in a series (i.e. subject of one of
> >   patches says [09/30]) (analogous to sample book chapters)
> > 
> > The rest of patches are behind closed doors (i.e. not sent), possibly
> > behind charm-priced (pay)walls.
> > 
> > Is the submission like above acceptable (when in review)?
> 
> No, kernel development is done in public.

That is, the submitter must send the full series, right? Why not partial
like above?

Confused...

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Re: Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

[Greg Kroah-Hartman]

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 01:59:47PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 08:37:10PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 09:20:45PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Let's say that there is a contributor who wish to send a patch set (e.g.
> > > 20-30 patches in the series) to LKML. But instead of sending the full
> > > series, he either do one of the following:
> > > 
> > > * Send only the cover letter (analogous to movie trailers)
> > > * Send only a few arbitrary patches in a series that are most important
> > >   (e.g. patch [01,04,11,18,23/30]) (analogous to match highlights)
> > > * Send only the first few patches in a series (i.e. subject of one of
> > >   patches says [09/30]) (analogous to sample book chapters)
> > > 
> > > The rest of patches are behind closed doors (i.e. not sent), possibly
> > > behind charm-priced (pay)walls.
> > > 
> > > Is the submission like above acceptable (when in review)?
> > 
> > No, kernel development is done in public.
> 
> That is, the submitter must send the full series, right? Why not partial
> like above?

What can anyone do with a partial patch series?  Why would anyone who
sent that think it would be material that anyone else should do work for
them and review it when they aren't even sending the whole series?

I'm confused as to why you would think that would be acceptable?  What
are you really asking here?  Hypotheticals only go so far, please point
at a real instance and we can talk about it there.

thanks,

greg k-h-

Re: Deliberately sending partial patch sets?

[Bagas Sanjaya]

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On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 09:44:00AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 01:59:47PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > That is, the submitter must send the full series, right? Why not partial
> > like above?
> 
> What can anyone do with a partial patch series?  Why would anyone who
> sent that think it would be material that anyone else should do work for
> them and review it when they aren't even sending the whole series?

IMO people will question why there is partial series submitted (and where the
missing patches are) and then ignore it if it becomes a pattern on submitter
side.

> 
> I'm confused as to why you would think that would be acceptable?  What
> are you really asking here?  Hypotheticals only go so far, please point
> at a real instance and we can talk about it there.

Honestly just to scratch my itch.

Thanks for the reply.

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