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From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
Cc: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
	vschneid@redhat.com, vincent.donnefort@arm.com,
	ke.wang@unisoc.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	christian.loehle@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cpu_busy_time from exceeding actual_cpu_capacity
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:03:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240619180348.rp22d4ozb4emncuq@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB8ipk_LXzkkGzT1SS6U8i4nW6j9coxeuwn6vuUFusCQcFM8zw@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/19/24 10:46, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:58 PM Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/17/24 12:03, Qais Yousef wrote:
> >
> > > > Sorry, I miss the "fits_capacity() use capacity_of()", and without
> > > > uclamp_max, the rd is over-utilized,
> > > > and would not use feec().
> > > > But I notice the uclamp_max, if the rq's uclamp_max is smaller than
> > > > SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE,
> > > > and is bigger than actual_cpu_capacity, the util_fits_cpu() would
> > > > return true, and the rd is not over-utilized.
> > > > Is this setting intentional?
> > >
> > > Hmm. To a great extent yes. We didn't want to take all types of rq pressure
> > > into account for uclamp_max. But this corner case could be debatable.
> > >
> > > Is this the source of your problem? If you change util_fits_cpu() to return
> > > false here, would this fix the problem you're seeing?
> >
> > FWIW, if this happens due to uclamp_max, then this patch to do the capping is
> > still needed.
> >
> > I think it's good to understand first how we end up in feec() when a CPU is
> > supposed to be overutlized. uclamp_max is the only way to override this
> > decision AFAICT..
> 
> Sorry for the late reply...
> In our own tree, we removed the check for rd overutil in feec(), so
> the above case often occurs.

Yeah, the current definition of overutilized is not good enough. So I can see
the need to do that..

> And now it seems that on the mainline, uclamp_max is the only way to
> override this.

Thanks for checking. Your patch is correct and if we combine this with another
patch to use get_actual_cpu_capacity() in util_fits_cpu(), they are good
improvements.

Are you still happy to send an updated patches?


Thanks!

--
Qais Yousef

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-19 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-06  7:06 Xuewen Yan
2024-06-07  7:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-07  8:20   ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-07 10:30     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-07 10:37       ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-21 10:22         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-24  2:27           ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-09 22:55 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-12  8:11   ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-16 22:20     ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-17  7:27       ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-17 11:03         ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 14:58           ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-19  2:46             ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-19 18:03               ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2024-06-20  3:08                 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-21 10:40               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-21 13:00                 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-24  2:35                   ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-18 15:20           ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-18 15:26             ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-17  9:07       ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-17 10:53         ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 15:23           ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-18 15:39             ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 21:05               ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-19 18:01                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-19  3:05               ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-19 18:10                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-20  7:45                   ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-20 11:37                     ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-21  8:22                       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-11  9:08 ` Christian Loehle

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