From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@unisoc.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
vschneid@redhat.com, vincent.donnefort@arm.com,
ke.wang@unisoc.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
christian.loehle@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cpu_busy_time from exceeding actual_cpu_capacity
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:10:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240619181021.kxcjxaqe47fkve42@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB8ipk86jmb6xnEUnv_Vs5=A5EnNfnHTy3FXYZRhKhuEFKhzDw@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/19/24 11:05, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 11:39 PM Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/18/24 17:23, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 12:53, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 06/17/24 11:07, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > And should effective_cpu_util() return a value higher than
> > > > > > get_actual_cpu_capacity()?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think we should because we want to return the effective
> > > > > utilization not the actual compute capacity.
> > > > > Having an utilization of the cpu or group of cpus above the actual
> > > > > capacity or the original capacity mainly means that we will have to
> > > > > run longer
> > > > >
> > > > > By capping the utilization we filter this information.
> > > > >
> > > > > capacity orig = 800
> > > > > util_avg = 700
> > > > >
> > > > > if we cap the capacity to 400 the cpu is expected to run twice longer
> > > > > for the same amount of work to be done
> > > >
> > > > Okay makes sense. Wouldn't the util be 'wrong' (to what degree will depend on
> > > > min/max freq ratio) though?
> > > >
> > > > We cap with arch_scale_capacity() still, I guess we know at this stage it is
> > > > 100% wrong if we allow returning higher values?
> > >
> > > I think that capping utilization to max capacity generates some energy
> > > estimation error because it filters the fact that we run longer in
> > > some cases.
> >
> > Yes, I think so too and that was my first statement. But I think this is
> > a bigger change to do separately.
>
> I saw the the sched_cpu_util() was used by teo.c and cpufreq_cooling.c
> If we change the arch_scale_capacity() to actual_cpu_capacity(), it may cause
> some errors?
The plan to revert this now.
>
> For-example:
> In teo:
> 212 static bool teo_cpu_is_utilized(int cpu, struct teo_cpu *cpu_data)
> 213 {
> 214 return sched_cpu_util(cpu) > cpu_data->util_threshold;
> 215 }
> It may cause the teo_cpu_is_utilized() to return false forever if the
> actual_cpu_capacity is smaller than util_threshold.
> However, the util_threshold is frome actual_cpu_capacity.
>
> In cpufreq_cooling.c:
> May we should change:
>
> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/cpufreq_cooling.c
> b/drivers/thermal/cpufreq_cooling.c
> index 280071be30b1..a8546d69cc10 100644
> --- a/drivers/thermal/cpufreq_cooling.c
> +++ b/drivers/thermal/cpufreq_cooling.c
> @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ static u32 get_load(struct cpufreq_cooling_device
> *cpufreq_cdev, int cpu,
> {
> unsigned long util = sched_cpu_util(cpu);
>
> - return (util * 100) / arch_scale_cpu_capacity(cpu);
> + return (util * 100) / get_actual_cpu_capacity(cpu);
> }
> #else /* !CONFIG_SMP */
> static u32 get_load(struct cpufreq_cooling_device *cpufreq_cdev, int cpu,
>
>
> Because if still use arch_scale_cpu_capacity(), the load pct may be decreased,
> It may affect the thermal-IPA-governor's power consideration.
I am not sure about this one. But looks plausible. Vincent?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-19 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-06 7:06 Xuewen Yan
2024-06-07 7:19 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-07 8:20 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-07 10:30 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-07 10:37 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-21 10:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-24 2:27 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-09 22:55 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-12 8:11 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-16 22:20 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-17 7:27 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-17 11:03 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 14:58 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-19 2:46 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-19 18:03 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-20 3:08 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-21 10:40 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-21 13:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-24 2:35 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-18 15:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-18 15:26 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-17 9:07 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-17 10:53 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 15:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-18 15:39 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-18 21:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-19 18:01 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-19 3:05 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-06-19 18:10 ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2024-06-20 7:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-20 11:37 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-21 8:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-11 9:08 ` Christian Loehle
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