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From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Handle unthrottle path for task based throttle
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 18:43:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250314104315.GE1633113@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fdb7163-d1f0-45c8-89fa-7c904b567696@amd.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 09:23:47AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Aaron,
> 
> On 3/13/2025 12:51 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:
> 
> [..snip..]
> 
> > ---
> >   kernel/sched/fair.c | 132 +++++++++++++++-----------------------------
> >   1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 87 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index ab403ff7d53c8..4a95fe3785e43 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -5366,18 +5366,17 @@ enqueue_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct
> > sched_entity *se, int flags)
> > 
> >   	if (cfs_rq->nr_queued == 1) {
> >   		check_enqueue_throttle(cfs_rq);
> > -		if (!throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq)) {
> > -			list_add_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> > -		} else {
> > +		list_add_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> >   #ifdef CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH
> > +		if (throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq)) {
> >   			struct rq *rq = rq_of(cfs_rq);
> > 
> >   			if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq) && !cfs_rq->throttled_clock)
> >   				cfs_rq->throttled_clock = rq_clock(rq);
> >   			if (!cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self)
> >   				cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> 
> These bits probabaly need revisiting. From what I understand, these
> stats were maintained to know when a task was woken up on a
> throttled hierarchy which was not connected to the parent essentially
> tracking the amount of time runnable tasks were waiting on the
> cfs_rq before an unthrottle event allowed them to be picked.

Do you mean these throttled_clock stats?

I think they are here because we do not record the throttled_clock for
empty cfs_rqs and once the cfs_rq has task enqueued, it needs to record
its throttled_clock. This is done in commit 79462e8c879a("sched: don't
account throttle time for empty groups") by Josh. I don't think per-task
throttle change this.

With this said, I think there is a gap in per-task throttle, i.e. when
all tasks are dequeued from this throttled cfs_rq, we should record its
throttled_time and clear its throttled_clock.

> 
> With per-task throttle, these semantics no longer apply since a woken
> task will run and dequeue itself when exiting to userspace.
> 
> Josh do you have any thoughts on this?
> 
> > -#endif
> >   		}
> > +#endif
> >   	}
> >   }
> >

> > @@ -5947,12 +5967,16 @@ static int tg_throttle_down(struct task_group
> > *tg, void *data)
> > 
> >   	/* group is entering throttled state, stop time */
> >   	cfs_rq->throttled_clock_pelt = rq_clock_pelt(rq);
> > -	list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> > 
> >   	SCHED_WARN_ON(cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self);
> >   	if (cfs_rq->nr_queued)
> >   		cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> > 
> > +	if (!cfs_rq->nr_queued) {
> > +		list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> > +		return 0;
> > +	}
> > +
> 
> This bit can perhaps go in Patch 2?

I kept all the changes to leaf cfs_rq handling in one patch, I think it
is easier to review :-)

Thanks,
Aaron

> >   	WARN_ON_ONCE(!list_empty(&cfs_rq->throttled_limbo_list));
> >   	/*
> >   	 * rq_lock is held, current is (obviously) executing this in kernelspace.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-14 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-17 10:28   ` Valentin Schneider
2025-03-17 11:02     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 18:14   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  8:48     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  9:00       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  3:28   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  8:57     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  9:12       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 15:10         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  8:39   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14  8:49     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  9:42     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 10:26       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:47         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 15:58           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 18:04           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:07       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-31  6:42         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-31  9:14           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-16  3:25   ` Josh Don
2025-03-17  2:54     ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20  6:59       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-20  8:39         ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 18:40           ` Xi Wang
2025-03-24  8:58             ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-25 10:02               ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28  0:11                 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-28  3:11                   ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 22:47         ` Benjamin Segall
2025-03-19 13:43     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-20  1:06       ` Josh Don
2025-03-20  6:53     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Handle unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  3:53   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  4:06     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 10:43     ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-03-14 17:52       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-17  5:48         ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02  9:25         ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 17:24           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of migrated task " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:03   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  9:49     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:51   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:40     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: fix tasks_rcu with task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:14   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:37     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-31  6:19     ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-01  3:17       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-01  8:48         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: Make sure cfs_rq has enough runtime_remaining on unthrottle path Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:18   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:39     ` [External] " Aaron Lu

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