From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>, Xi Wang <xii@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path for task based throttle
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:43:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250319134257.GA1428417@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABk29Nuuq6s1+FBftOPAcMkYU+F1n2nebcP5tDK9dH4_KXA2cw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Josh,
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 08:25:53PM -0700, Josh Don wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> > static int tg_throttle_down(struct task_group *tg, void *data)
> > {
> > struct rq *rq = data;
> > struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = tg->cfs_rq[cpu_of(rq)];
> > + struct task_struct *p;
> > + struct rb_node *node;
> > +
> > + cfs_rq->throttle_count++;
> > + if (cfs_rq->throttle_count > 1)
> > + return 0;
> >
> > /* group is entering throttled state, stop time */
> > - if (!cfs_rq->throttle_count) {
> > - cfs_rq->throttled_clock_pelt = rq_clock_pelt(rq);
> > - list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> > + cfs_rq->throttled_clock_pelt = rq_clock_pelt(rq);
> > + list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> >
> > - SCHED_WARN_ON(cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self);
> > - if (cfs_rq->nr_queued)
> > - cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> > + SCHED_WARN_ON(cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self);
> > + if (cfs_rq->nr_queued)
> > + cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> > +
> > + WARN_ON_ONCE(!list_empty(&cfs_rq->throttled_limbo_list));
> > + /*
> > + * rq_lock is held, current is (obviously) executing this in kernelspace.
> > + *
> > + * All other tasks enqueued on this rq have their saved PC at the
> > + * context switch, so they will go through the kernel before returning
> > + * to userspace. Thus, there are no tasks-in-userspace to handle, just
> > + * install the task_work on all of them.
> > + */
> > + node = rb_first(&cfs_rq->tasks_timeline.rb_root);
> > + while (node) {
> > + struct sched_entity *se = __node_2_se(node);
> > +
> > + if (!entity_is_task(se))
> > + goto next;
> > +
> > + p = task_of(se);
> > + task_throttle_setup_work(p);
> > +next:
> > + node = rb_next(node);
> > + }
>
> I'd like to strongly push back on this approach. This adds quite a lot
> of extra computation to an already expensive path
> (throttle/unthrottle). e.g. this function is part of the cgroup walk
> and so it is already O(cgroups) for the number of cgroups in the
> hierarchy being throttled. This gets even worse when you consider that
> we repeat this separately across all the cpus that the
> bandwidth-constrained group is running on. Keep in mind that
> throttle/unthrottle is done with rq lock held and IRQ disabled.
Agree that it's not good to do this O(nr_task) thing in
throttle/unthrottle path. As Chengming mentioned, throttle path can
avoid this but unthrottle path does not have an easy way to avoid this.
> In K Prateek's last RFC, there was discussion of using context
> tracking; did you consider that approach any further? We could keep
I haven't tried that approach yet.
> track of the number of threads within a cgroup hierarchy currently in
> kernel mode (similar to h_nr_runnable), and thus simplify down the
> throttling code here.
My initial feeling is the implementation looks pretty complex. If it can
be simplified somehow, that would be great.
Best regards,
Aaron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-19 13:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-17 10:28 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-03-17 11:02 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 18:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 8:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 9:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 3:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 8:57 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 9:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 15:10 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 8:39 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 8:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 9:42 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 10:26 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:47 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 15:58 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 18:04 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:07 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-31 6:42 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-31 9:14 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-16 3:25 ` Josh Don
2025-03-17 2:54 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 6:59 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-20 8:39 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 18:40 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-24 8:58 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-25 10:02 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 0:11 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-28 3:11 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 22:47 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-03-19 13:43 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-03-20 1:06 ` Josh Don
2025-03-20 6:53 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Handle unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 3:53 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 4:06 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 10:43 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 17:52 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-17 5:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 9:25 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 17:24 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of migrated task " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:03 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 9:49 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:40 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: fix tasks_rcu with task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:14 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:37 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-31 6:19 ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-01 3:17 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-01 8:48 ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: Make sure cfs_rq has enough runtime_remaining on unthrottle path Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 4:18 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:39 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
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