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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path for task based throttle
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:44:49 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9b1d117-2824-4238-bb8c-6390ec3e931b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCG0GcFF7cnR4rCbU5MmY1Gq3M+r4gPXv39QPXXC=Cdr6sRww@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Aaron,

P.S. I've fixed the wrapped lines and have been testing the series. So
far I haven't run into any issues yet on my machine. Will report back if
anything surface.

I've few comments inlined below.

On 3/13/2025 12:51 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:

[..snip..]

> +static inline void task_throttle_setup_work(struct task_struct *p)
> +{
> +	/*
> +	 * Kthreads and exiting tasks don't return to userspace, so adding the
> +	 * work is pointless
> +	 */
> +	if ((p->flags & (PF_EXITING | PF_KTHREAD)))
> +		return;
> +
> +	if (task_has_throttle_work(p))
> +		return;
> +
> +	task_work_add(p, &p->sched_throttle_work, TWA_RESUME);

Does it make sense to add a throttle work to a delayed task? It may be
dequeued soon and when it is queued back, the throttle situation might
have changed but the work is unnecessarily run. Could the throttle work
be instead added at the point of enqueue for delayed tasks?

> +}
> +
>   static int tg_throttle_down(struct task_group *tg, void *data)
>   {
>   	struct rq *rq = data;
>   	struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = tg->cfs_rq[cpu_of(rq)];
> +	struct task_struct *p;
> +	struct rb_node *node;
> +
> +	cfs_rq->throttle_count++;
> +	if (cfs_rq->throttle_count > 1)
> +		return 0;
> 
>   	/* group is entering throttled state, stop time */
> -	if (!cfs_rq->throttle_count) {
> -		cfs_rq->throttled_clock_pelt = rq_clock_pelt(rq);
> -		list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> +	cfs_rq->throttled_clock_pelt = rq_clock_pelt(rq);

Once cencern here is that the PELT is seemingly frozen despite the
hierarchy being runnable. I've still not tracked down whether it'll
cause any problems once unthrottled and all throttled time is negated
from the pelt clock but is there any concerns here?

Maybe this can be done at dequeue when cfs_rq->nr_queued on a
throttled_hierarchy() reached 0.

> +	list_del_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
> 
> -		SCHED_WARN_ON(cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self);
> -		if (cfs_rq->nr_queued)
> -			cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> +	SCHED_WARN_ON(cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self);
> +	if (cfs_rq->nr_queued)
> +		cfs_rq->throttled_clock_self = rq_clock(rq);
> +
> +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!list_empty(&cfs_rq->throttled_limbo_list));
> +	/*
> +	 * rq_lock is held, current is (obviously) executing this in kernelspace.
> +	 *
> +	 * All other tasks enqueued on this rq have their saved PC at the
> +	 * context switch, so they will go through the kernel before returning
> +	 * to userspace. Thus, there are no tasks-in-userspace to handle, just
> +	 * install the task_work on all of them.
> +	 */
> +	node = rb_first(&cfs_rq->tasks_timeline.rb_root);
> +	while (node) {
> +		struct sched_entity *se = __node_2_se(node);
> +
> +		if (!entity_is_task(se))
> +			goto next;
> +
> +		p = task_of(se);
> +		task_throttle_setup_work(p);
> +next:
> +		node = rb_next(node);
> +	}
> +
> +	/* curr is not in the timeline tree */
> +	if (cfs_rq->curr && entity_is_task(cfs_rq->curr)) {

I believe we can reach here from pick_next_task_fair() ->
check_cfs_rq_runtime() -> throttle_cfs_rq() in which case cfs_rq->curr
will still be set despite the task being blocked since put_prev_entity()
has not been called yet.

I believe there should be a check for task_on_rq_queued() here for the
current task.

> +		p = task_of(cfs_rq->curr);
> +		task_throttle_setup_work(p);
>   	}
> -	cfs_rq->throttle_count++;
> 
>   	return 0;
>   }
> 

[..snip..]

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-13 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-17 10:28   ` Valentin Schneider
2025-03-17 11:02     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Handle throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13 18:14   ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-03-14  8:48     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  9:00       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  3:28   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  8:57     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  9:12       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 15:10         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  8:39   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14  8:49     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  9:42     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 10:26       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:47         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 15:58           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-14 18:04           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:07       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-31  6:42         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-31  9:14           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-16  3:25   ` Josh Don
2025-03-17  2:54     ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20  6:59       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-20  8:39         ` Chengming Zhou
2025-03-20 18:40           ` Xi Wang
2025-03-24  8:58             ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-25 10:02               ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28  0:11                 ` Xi Wang
2025-03-28  3:11                   ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-28 22:47         ` Benjamin Segall
2025-03-19 13:43     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-20  1:06       ` Josh Don
2025-03-20  6:53     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Handle unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  3:53   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  4:06     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 10:43     ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-14 17:52       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-17  5:48         ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02  9:25         ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-02 17:24           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of migrated task " Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:03   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14  9:49     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:51   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:40     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: fix tasks_rcu with task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:14   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:37     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-03-31  6:19     ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-01  3:17       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-01  8:48         ` Aaron Lu
2025-03-13  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: Make sure cfs_rq has enough runtime_remaining on unthrottle path Aaron Lu
2025-03-14  4:18   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-14 11:39     ` [External] " Aaron Lu

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