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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	vschneid@redhat.com, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: scheduler performance regression since v6.11
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 17:02:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250521150207.GD24938@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5cf1790a-3eed-4c0a-8a31-b3802c5d9b35@arm.com>

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 04:02:46PM +0200, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 20/05/2025 21:38, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 04:38:09PM +0200, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > 
> >> 3840cbe24cf0 - sched: psi: fix bogus pressure spikes from aggregation race
> >>
> >> With CONFIG_PSI enabled we call cpu_clock(cpu) now multiple times (up to
> >> 4 times per task switch in my setup) in:
> >>
> >> __schedule() -> psi_sched_switch() -> psi_task_switch() ->
> >> psi_group_change().
> >>
> >> There seems to be another/other v6.12 related patch(es) later which
> >> cause(s) another 4% regression I yet have to discover.
> > 
> > Urgh, let me add this to the pile to look at. Thanks!
> 
> Not sure how expensive 'cpu_clock(cpu)' is on bare-metal.
> 
> But I also don't get why PSI needs per group 'now' values when we
> iterate over cgroup levels?

IIUC the read side does something like:

 real-read + guestimate(now, read-time);

And if the time-stamp is from before the write_seqcount_begin(), the
guestimate part goes side-ways.

My 'fix' is fairly simple straight forward brute force, but ideally this
whole thing gets some actual thinking done -- but my brain is fried from
staring at the wakeup path too long and I need to do simple things for a
few days ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-07 23:13 Chris Mason
2025-05-09 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-12 18:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-12 19:39     ` Chris Mason
2025-05-12 22:35       ` Chris Mason
2025-05-13  7:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-16 10:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-20 14:38           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-05-20 14:53             ` Chris Mason
2025-05-21 13:59               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-05-21 14:32                 ` Chris Mason
2025-05-20 19:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-21 14:02               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-05-21 15:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-05-21 19:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-21 14:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22  8:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 15:00                   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-23 15:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23 12:27                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-07-10 12:46                   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/psi: Optimize psi_group_change() cpu_clock() usage tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra

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