From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Michal Koutny <mkoutny@suse.com>,
tj@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lujialin4@huawei.com,
chenridong@huawei.com, gaoyingjie@uniontech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 -next] cgroup: remove offline draining in root destruction to avoid hung_tasks
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 18:02:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250815100213.4599-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd1418f9-93d0-45c9-bcc2-d67f48d050f6@huaweicloud.com>
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 15:29:56 +0800 Chen Ridong wrote:
>On 2025/8/15 10:40, Hillf Danton wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 09:42:05AM +0800, Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 11:27:33AM +0000, Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> CPU0 CPU1
>>>>> mount perf_event umount net_prio
>>>>> cgroup1_get_tree cgroup_kill_sb
>>>>> rebind_subsystems // root destruction enqueues
>>>>> // cgroup_destroy_wq
>>>>> // kill all perf_event css
>>>>> // one perf_event css A is dying
>>>>> // css A offline enqueues cgroup_destroy_wq
>>>>> // root destruction will be executed first
>>>>> css_free_rwork_fn
>>>>> cgroup_destroy_root
>>>>> cgroup_lock_and_drain_offline
>>>>> // some perf descendants are dying
>>>>> // cgroup_destroy_wq max_active = 1
>>>>> // waiting for css A to die
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem scenario:
>>>>> 1. CPU0 mounts perf_event (rebind_subsystems)
>>>>> 2. CPU1 unmounts net_prio (cgroup_kill_sb), queuing root destruction work
>>>>> 3. A dying perf_event CSS gets queued for offline after root destruction
>>>>> 4. Root destruction waits for offline completion, but offline work is
>>>>> blocked behind root destruction in cgroup_destroy_wq (max_active=1)
>>>>
>>>> What's concerning me is why umount of net_prio hierarhy waits for
>>>> draining of the default hierachy? (Where you then run into conflict with
>>>> perf_event that's implicit_on_dfl.)
>>>>
>> /*
>> * cgroup destruction makes heavy use of work items and there can be a lot
>> * of concurrent destructions. Use a separate workqueue so that cgroup
>> * destruction work items don't end up filling up max_active of system_wq
>> * which may lead to deadlock.
>> */
>>
>> If task hung could be reliably reproduced, it is right time to cut
>> max_active off for cgroup_destroy_wq according to its comment.
>
>Hi Danton,
>
>Thank you for your feedback.
>
>While modifying max_active could be a viable solution, I’m unsure whether it might introduce other
>side effects. Instead, I’ve proposed an alternative approach in v3 of the patch, which I believe
>addresses the issue more comprehensively.
>
Given your reproducer [1], it is simple to test with max_active cut.
I do not think v3 is a correct fix frankly because it leaves the root cause
intact. Nor is it cgroup specific even given high concurrency in destruction.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/39e05402-40c7-4631-a87b-8e3747ceddc6@huaweicloud.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-15 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-22 11:27 Chen Ridong
2025-07-24 13:35 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-25 1:42 ` Chen Ridong
2025-07-25 17:17 ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-26 0:52 ` Chen Ridong
2025-07-31 11:53 ` Chen Ridong
2025-08-14 15:17 ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-15 0:30 ` Chen Ridong
2025-08-15 2:40 ` Hillf Danton
2025-08-15 7:29 ` Chen Ridong
2025-08-15 10:02 ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2025-08-15 10:28 ` Chen Ridong
2025-08-15 11:54 ` Hillf Danton
2025-08-16 0:33 ` Chen Ridong
2025-08-16 0:57 ` Hillf Danton
2025-08-15 7:24 ` Chen Ridong
2025-07-25 1:48 ` Chen Ridong
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