* [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq
@ 2025-09-19 15:30 Marco Crivellari
2025-09-19 15:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue Marco Crivellari
2025-10-10 10:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Rafael J . Wysocki, Pavel Machek, Len Brown
Hi!
Below is a summary of a discussion about the Workqueue API and cpu isolation
considerations. Details and more information are available here:
"workqueue: Always use wq_select_unbound_cpu() for WORK_CPU_UNBOUND."
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250221112003.1dSuoGyc@linutronix.de/
=== Current situation: problems ===
Let's consider a nohz_full system with isolated CPUs: wq_unbound_cpumask is
set to the housekeeping CPUs, for !WQ_UNBOUND the local CPU is selected.
This leads to different scenarios if a work item is scheduled on an isolated
CPU where "delay" value is 0 or greater then 0:
schedule_delayed_work(, 0);
This will be handled by __queue_work() that will queue the work item on the
current local (isolated) CPU, while:
schedule_delayed_work(, 1);
Will move the timer on an housekeeping CPU, and schedule the work there.
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
=== Plan and future plans ===
This patchset is the first stone on a refactoring needed in order to
address the points aforementioned; it will have a positive impact also
on the cpu isolation, in the long term, moving away percpu workqueue in
favor to an unbound model.
These are the main steps:
1) API refactoring (that this patch is introducing)
- Make more clear and uniform the system wq names, both per-cpu and
unbound. This to avoid any possible confusion on what should be
used.
- Introduction of WQ_PERCPU: this flag is the complement of WQ_UNBOUND,
introduced in this patchset and used on all the callers that are not
currently using WQ_UNBOUND.
WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a future release cycle.
Most users don't need to be per-cpu, because they don't have
locality requirements, because of that, a next future step will be
make "unbound" the default behavior.
2) Check who really needs to be per-cpu
- Remove the WQ_PERCPU flag when is not strictly required.
3) Add a new API (prefer local cpu)
- There are users that don't require a local execution, like mentioned
above; despite that, local execution yeld to performance gain.
This new API will prefer the local execution, without requiring it.
=== Introduced Changes by this series ===
1) [P 1] add WQ_UNBOUND to pm_wq (alloc_workqueue() flag)
Every alloc_workqueue() caller should use one among WQ_PERCPU or
WQ_UNBOUND. Add WQ_UNBOUND to pm_wq to make it explicit this wq is
unbound.
WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a next release cycle.
Thanks!
---
Changes in v2:
- WQ_PERCPU removed from pm_wq.
- WQ_UNBOUND has been added to pm_wq to make explicit this wq is unbound.
Marco Crivellari (1):
PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
kernel/power/main.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
--
2.51.0
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* [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
2025-09-19 15:30 [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-19 15:30 ` Marco Crivellari
2025-10-13 18:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-10 10:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq Marco Crivellari
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Rafael J . Wysocki, Pavel Machek, Len Brown
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
alloc_workqueue() treats all queues as per-CPU by default, while unbound
workqueues must opt-in via WQ_UNBOUND.
This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.
This change add the WQ_UNBOUND flag to pm_wq, to make explicit this
workqueue can be unbound and that it does not benefit from per-cpu work.
Once migration is complete, WQ_UNBOUND can be removed and unbound will
become the implicit default.
Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
---
kernel/power/main.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/kernel/power/main.c b/kernel/power/main.c
index 3cf2d7e72567..33a47ed15994 100644
--- a/kernel/power/main.c
+++ b/kernel/power/main.c
@@ -1056,7 +1056,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pm_wq);
static int __init pm_start_workqueue(void)
{
- pm_wq = alloc_workqueue("pm", WQ_FREEZABLE, 0);
+ pm_wq = alloc_workqueue("pm", WQ_FREEZABLE | WQ_UNBOUND, 0);
return pm_wq ? 0 : -ENOMEM;
}
--
2.51.0
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* Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq
2025-09-19 15:30 [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq Marco Crivellari
2025-09-19 15:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-10-10 10:16 ` Marco Crivellari
2025-10-10 13:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-10-10 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel, linux-pm
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko, Rafael J . Wysocki,
Pavel Machek, Len Brown
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 5:30 PM Marco Crivellari
<marco.crivellari@suse.com> wrote:
> [...]
> Changes in v2:
> - WQ_PERCPU removed from pm_wq.
>
> - WQ_UNBOUND has been added to pm_wq to make explicit this wq is unbound.
>
>
> Marco Crivellari (1):
> PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
>
> kernel/power/main.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Gentle Ping. :-)
Thanks!
--
Marco Crivellari
L3 Support Engineer, Technology & Product
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* Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq
2025-10-10 10:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-10-10 13:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2025-10-10 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Crivellari
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko,
Rafael J . Wysocki, Pavel Machek, Len Brown
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 12:16 PM Marco Crivellari
<marco.crivellari@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 5:30 PM Marco Crivellari
> <marco.crivellari@suse.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > Changes in v2:
> > - WQ_PERCPU removed from pm_wq.
> >
> > - WQ_UNBOUND has been added to pm_wq to make explicit this wq is unbound.
> >
> >
> > Marco Crivellari (1):
> > PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
> >
> > kernel/power/main.c | 2 +-
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> Gentle Ping. :-)
Well, a merge window is in progress. I'll get to this when it's over.
Thanks!
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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
2025-09-19 15:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-10-13 18:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-14 7:52 ` Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rafael J. Wysocki @ 2025-10-13 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Crivellari
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko,
Rafael J . Wysocki, Pavel Machek, Len Brown
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 5:30 PM Marco Crivellari
<marco.crivellari@suse.com> wrote:
>
> Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
> used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
> WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
> schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
> again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
> This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
>
> alloc_workqueue() treats all queues as per-CPU by default, while unbound
> workqueues must opt-in via WQ_UNBOUND.
>
> This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
> allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
> reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.
>
> This change add the WQ_UNBOUND flag to pm_wq, to make explicit this
> workqueue can be unbound and that it does not benefit from per-cpu work.
>
> Once migration is complete, WQ_UNBOUND can be removed and unbound will
> become the implicit default.
>
> Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
> ---
> kernel/power/main.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/power/main.c b/kernel/power/main.c
> index 3cf2d7e72567..33a47ed15994 100644
> --- a/kernel/power/main.c
> +++ b/kernel/power/main.c
> @@ -1056,7 +1056,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pm_wq);
>
> static int __init pm_start_workqueue(void)
> {
> - pm_wq = alloc_workqueue("pm", WQ_FREEZABLE, 0);
> + pm_wq = alloc_workqueue("pm", WQ_FREEZABLE | WQ_UNBOUND, 0);
>
> return pm_wq ? 0 : -ENOMEM;
> }
> --
Applied as 6.19 material, thanks!
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* Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] PM: WQ_UNBOUND added to pm_wq workqueue
2025-10-13 18:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
@ 2025-10-14 7:52 ` Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-10-14 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael J. Wysocki
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-pm, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko,
Pavel Machek, Len Brown
On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 8:51 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>[...]
> Applied as 6.19 material, thanks!
Many thanks!
--
Marco Crivellari
L3 Support Engineer, Technology & Product
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