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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Rich Felker" <dalias@aerifal.cx>,
	"Torvald Riegel" <triegel@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] futex: Introduce __vdso_robust_futex_unlock
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 13:12:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260313121259.XYZi8U-j@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b91a3ad3-7d87-4eb2-9664-652f809f047f@efficios.com>

On 2026-03-12 18:52:43 [-0400], Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2026-03-12 18:23, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 11 2026 at 14:54, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> [...]
> > 
> > TBH, all of this is completely overengineered and tasteless bloat.
> > 
> > The exactly same thing can be achieved by doing the obvious:
> > 
> > struct robust_list_head2 {
> > 	struct robust_list_head		rhead;
> >          u32				unlock_val;
> > };
> > 
> > // User space
> > unlock(futex)
> > {
> >          struct robust_list_head2 *h = ....;
> > 
> >          h->unlock_val = 0;
> >          h->rhead.list_op_pending = .... | FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK;
> > 
> >          xchg(futex->uval, h->unlock_val);
> 
> Here is the problem with your proposed approach:
> 
>   "XCHG — Exchange Register/Memory With Register"
>                                         ^^^^^^^^
> 
> So only one of the xchg arguments can be a memory location.
> Therefore, you will end up needing an extra store after xchg
> to store the content of the result register into h->unlock_val.

But can't we also assign a role to pthread_mutex_destroy() here? So it
would ensure that the futex death cleanup did run for every task having
access to this memory? So it is either 0 or pid-of-dead-task before this
memory location can be used again?

> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 18:54 Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12  8:49 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 13:13   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 14:12     ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 14:14       ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 16:09         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 13:46 ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 14:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 18:40     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 18:58       ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 19:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 19:16       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-13  8:20         ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 20:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 21:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 22:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 22:52   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-13 12:12     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-03-13 12:17       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-13 13:29         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-13 13:35           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 19:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 20:27         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 21:01           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 22:19             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 22:30               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 23:29                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-20 18:13                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-24 21:35                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-25 14:12                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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