From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>,
Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] futex: Introduce __vdso_robust_futex_unlock
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 18:52:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b91a3ad3-7d87-4eb2-9664-652f809f047f@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eclopu0j.ffs@tglx>
On 2026-03-12 18:23, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11 2026 at 14:54, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
[...]
>
> TBH, all of this is completely overengineered and tasteless bloat.
>
> The exactly same thing can be achieved by doing the obvious:
>
> struct robust_list_head2 {
> struct robust_list_head rhead;
> u32 unlock_val;
> };
>
> // User space
> unlock(futex)
> {
> struct robust_list_head2 *h = ....;
>
> h->unlock_val = 0;
> h->rhead.list_op_pending = .... | FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK;
>
> xchg(futex->uval, h->unlock_val);
Here is the problem with your proposed approach:
"XCHG — Exchange Register/Memory With Register"
^^^^^^^^
So only one of the xchg arguments can be a memory location.
Therefore, you will end up needing an extra store after xchg
to store the content of the result register into h->unlock_val.
If the process dies between those two instructions, your proposed
robust list code will be fooled and fall into the same bug that's
been lingering for 14 years.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-12 22:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-11 18:54 Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 8:49 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 13:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 14:12 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 14:14 ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 16:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 13:46 ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 14:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 18:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 18:58 ` André Almeida
2026-03-12 19:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-13 8:20 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-12 20:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 21:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-12 22:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-12 22:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2026-03-13 12:12 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-13 12:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-13 13:29 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-13 13:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 19:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 20:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 21:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 22:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 22:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 23:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-20 18:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-24 21:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-25 14:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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