From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Cc: vschneid@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
kprateek.nayak@amd.com, pauld@redhat.com,
aiqun.yu@oss.qualcomm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/fair: Don't trigger active lb if src_rq->curr is not on_rq
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:18:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260618091804.GM42921@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260617072151.1173416-2-jackzxcui1989@163.com>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 03:21:50PM +0800, Xin Zhao wrote:
> Active balancing needs the help by migration threads which will interrupt
> task on src_rq. It has a certain impact on overall performance. Active
> balancing often fails, there is a check to determine whether the current
> task(say it 'curr') on src_rq can run on dst_rq. We have observed that
> even that, if curr is a CFS task and on_rq is 0, the failure rate of
> active balancing is very high. Below are the test data from a certain
> fillback task scenario executed on a platform with 18 CPUs over 300
> seconds:
<snip table for brevity>
> In __schedule(), before setting curr to next, during the execution of
> pick_next_task(), sched_balance_rq() is called. It will unlock and then
> re-lock the rq, creating "holes" during which other CPUs may see zero
> rq->curr->on_rq. try_to_block_task() sets curr->on_rq to 0, and during the
> rq lock "hole" in pick_next_task(), rq->curr has not yet been assigned to
> next, resulting in curr->on_rq being seen as 0.
>
> We do not need to perform active balancing when src_rq->curr is CFS task
> but on_rq is 0, as other CFS tasks have been probably checked just before.
> For cases where src_rq->curr is a non-CFS task, we retain the affinity
> check for dst_rq to trigger active balancing because such task is likely
> to wake-up or woken-by src_rq CFS task which has similar affinity
> characteristics to migrate. Also, after executing detach_tasks(), rq lock
> is released. Tasks on the rq awakened during detach_tasks() may preempt
> the previous CFS task. Based on my test(though not shown above), success
> rate of active balancing under the condition of !fair && on_rq is 98.4%.
> This scenario does not require the use of stop work, but need to add
> another path to detach attach task(s). It seems not necessary enough to
> add it, Valentin and Vincent have already discussed about it, see [1].
>
> Additionally, sched_class field is a bit far from on_cpu in task_struct.
> The previous traversal of cfs_tasks checks on_cpu in can_migrate_task(),
> so the additional check for on_rq will not incur much cpu cycle loss, due
> to cache locality.
>
> Two reasons why not check sched_class and on_rq of busiest->curr with the
> cpumask_test_cpu() check:
> 1. Let the PATCH not introduce new cases that skip logic for resetting
> balance_interval to min_interval.
> 2. The check of whether busiest cpu has been just triggered active balance
> filters a bit more cases than the check of sched_class and on_rq.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190815145107.5318-5-valentin.schneider@arm.com/
>
> Signed-off-by: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Perhaps because it is early and I've not had enough wake-up juice, or
perhaps because it is too damn warm already and my brain is
pre-emptively shutting down already, I found it very hard to read your
Changelog.
I asked one of these fancy AI things to rephrase things, and then did a
manual edit on it and ended up with the below. Notably, the changelog
talks about a sched_class check, while the actual patch has none of
that.
Does this work for you?
---
Subject: sched/fair: Don't trigger active lb if src_rq->curr is not on_rq
From: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 15:21:50 +0800
From: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Active load balancing relies on migration threads, which temporarily preempt
tasks on the source runqueue (src_rq). This preemption can negatively impact
overall system performance. The active balancing logic includes a check to
verify whether the current task (curr) on src_rq can actually run on the
destination runqueue (dst_rq). We have observed that when curr is a CFS task
and its on_rq flag is 0, the active balancing failure rate is exceptionally
high. The following table summarizes test data collected over 300 seconds on an
18-CPU platform under a specific fillback task scenario:
fair: busiest->curr->sched_class == &fair_sched_class
on_rq: busiest->curr->on_rq
total: active balance count triggered of correspondent type
fail: fail to migrate one task in active_load_balance_cpu_stop()
fair && !on_rq !fair && !on_rq
domain total fail total fail
cpu0 0x00003 0 0 0 0
cpu0 0x3ffff 33 33 1 1
cpu1 0x00003 0 0 0 0
cpu1 0x3ffff 42 42 0 0
cpu2 0x0003c 4 4 0 0
cpu2 0x3ffff 12 12 0 0
cpu3 0x0003c 3 3 0 0
cpu3 0x3ffff 8 7 0 0
cpu4 0x0003c 2 2 0 0
cpu4 0x3ffff 5 4 0 0
cpu5 0x0003c 4 4 0 0
cpu5 0x3ffff 8 8 0 0
cpu6 0x003c0 60 60 0 0
cpu6 0x3ffff 28 27 0 0
cpu7 0x003c0 194 184 0 0
cpu7 0x3ffff 35 35 1 1
cpu8 0x003c0 240 228 0 0
cpu8 0x3ffff 28 28 0 0
cpu9 0x003c0 0 0 0 0
cpu9 0x3ffff 10 10 0 0
cpu10 0x03c00 52 50 0 0
cpu10 0x3ffff 0 0 0 0
cpu11 0x03c00 70 68 0 0
cpu11 0x3ffff 1 1 0 0
cpu12 0x03c00 73 72 0 0
cpu12 0x3ffff 0 0 0 0
cpu13 0x03c00 79 76 0 0
cpu13 0x3ffff 0 0 0 0
cpu14 0x3c000 0 0 0 0
cpu14 0x3ffff 57 55 1 0
cpu15 0x3c000 53 52 1 0
cpu15 0x3ffff 30 29 0 0
cpu16 0x3c000 344 341 10 6
cpu16 0x3ffff 103 100 2 1
cpu17 0x3c000 183 179 2 2
cpu17 0x3ffff 78 77 0 0
sum 1839 1791 18 11
In __schedule(), before curr is updated to next, pick_next_task() invokes
sched_balance_rq(). This function temporarily unlocks and relocks the runqueue,
creating a window where other CPUs may observe rq->curr->on_rq as 0.
We can safely skip active balancing when src_rq->curr->on_rq == 0, as other
eligible tasks have likely already been evaluated.
We retain the affinity check on dst_rq to trigger active balancing, since such
tasks are often woken by (or wake up) tasks on src_rq that share similar
affinity constraints. Furthermore, detach_tasks() releases the runqueue lock;
any tasks awakened during this window may preempt the previous CFS task. My
testing (data not shown) indicates that active balancing succeeds in 98.4% of
cases where !fair && on_rq.
This scenario does not require a stop-work callback, but would necessitate an
additional detach/attach path. As Valentin and Vincent have already discussed,
this addition does not appear justified at this time (see [1]).
Since can_migrate_task() already checks on_cpu during the cfs_tasks traversal,
adding an on_rq check will have negligible performance overhead due to cache
locality.
There are two reasons for not combining the on_rq check with the
cpumask_test_cpu() check:
- Avoiding new scenarios that would skip the logic for resetting
balance_interval to min_interval.
- The existing check for whether the busiest CPU recently triggered active
load balancing already filters more cases than the on_rq check.
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190815145107.5318-5-valentin.schneider@arm.com/
Signed-off-by: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
Reviewed-by: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/20260617072151.1173416-2-jackzxcui1989@163.com
---
kernel/sched/fair.c | 19 ++++++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -13482,12 +13482,21 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu
* ->active_balance_work. Once set, it's cleared
* only after active load balance is finished.
*/
- if (!busiest->active_balance) {
- busiest->active_balance = 1;
- busiest->push_cpu = this_cpu;
- active_balance = 1;
- }
+ if (busiest->active_balance)
+ goto no_active_balance;
+ /*
+ * @busiest dropped its rq_lock in the middle of
+ * scheduling out its ->curr task (->on_rq := 0), no
+ * need to forcefully punt it away with active balance.
+ */
+ if (!busiest->curr->on_rq)
+ goto no_active_balance;
+
+ busiest->active_balance = 1;
+ busiest->push_cpu = this_cpu;
+ active_balance = 1;
+no_active_balance:
preempt_disable();
raw_spin_rq_unlock_irqrestore(busiest, flags);
if (active_balance) {
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-17 7:21 [PATCH v5 0/2] sched/fair: Optimize some active balance logic Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 7:21 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/fair: Don't trigger active lb if src_rq->curr is not on_rq Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 9:30 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-06-18 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-06-18 10:09 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 7:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] sched/fair: Simplify balance_interval reset logic in sched_balance_rq() Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 10:17 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 10:49 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 10:56 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] sched/fair: Optimize some active balance logic Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 13:56 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-22 12:15 ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Reflow sched_balance_rq() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
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