From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
Cc: vschneid@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
kprateek.nayak@amd.com, pauld@redhat.com,
aiqun.yu@oss.qualcomm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] sched/fair: Simplify balance_interval reset logic in sched_balance_rq()
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:40:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260618094056.GN42921@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260617072151.1173416-3-jackzxcui1989@163.com>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 03:21:51PM +0800, Xin Zhao wrote:
> In sched_balance_rq(), it is possible to call need_active_balance() twice
> in quick succession, which is not appropriate. There are two conditions in
> sched_balance_rq() that reset balance_interval to min_interval, one is
> when the local variable active_balance is 0, and the other is when
> need_active_balance() returns a non-zero value. The local variable
> active_balance is initialized to 0. Therefore, the only situation in which
> balance_interval NOT be reset to min_interval is if need_active_balance()
> has been executed once, marking the local variable active_balance as 1,
> and then the second call to need_active_balance() returns 0. In other
> words, the case is that during the interval between two close calls to
> need_active_balance(), busiest rq completes the recently dispatched active
> balance stop work, which is quite rare.
>
> There are mainly two scenarios that lead to reaching sched_balance_rq():
> one is the newly idle balance triggered by __schedule(), and the other is
> the periodic balance logic controlled by sd->balance_interval or
> nohz.next_balance, which ultimately executes in the softirq context. The
> vast majority of cases executing sched_balance_rq() is the first scenario.
> During the execution of __schedule(), preemption is disabled, so the
> interval between two checks of need_active_balance() will not be long.
> Thus, only in the second scenario, balance_interval may NOT be reset to
> min_interval, but it's still not likely. The second scenario is in softirq
> context, the execution of two need_active_balance() checks can be
> preempted by other tasks, leading to a longer interval between the two
> checks. However, there is no evidence to suggest that not resetting
> min_interval in these low-probability cases caused by scheduling
> preemption offers any significant benefits. It would be better to simplify
> this complex reset logic for balance_interval to an unconditional reset.
This is very confusing, and my AI helper isn't helping much this time
around.
active_balance is initialized 0, it is only (but not always) set 1 when
need_active_balance().
Therefore, the condition: !active_balance || need_active_balance() is a
truism and can be removed.
Or am I missing something more complicated?
> Signed-off-by: Xin Zhao <jackzxcui1989@163.com>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 6 ++----
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 2b9653623..9c78241e9 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -13464,10 +13464,8 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> sd->nr_balance_failed = 0;
> }
>
> - if (likely(!active_balance) || need_active_balance(&env)) {
> - /* We were unbalanced, so reset the balancing interval */
> - sd->balance_interval = sd->min_interval;
> - }
> + /* We were unbalanced, so reset the balancing interval */
> + sd->balance_interval = sd->min_interval;
>
> goto out;
>
> --
> 2.34.1
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-17 7:21 [PATCH v5 0/2] sched/fair: Optimize some active balance logic Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 7:21 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/fair: Don't trigger active lb if src_rq->curr is not on_rq Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 9:30 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-06-18 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 10:09 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Xin Zhao
2026-06-17 7:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] sched/fair: Simplify balance_interval reset logic in sched_balance_rq() Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-06-18 10:17 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 10:49 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Xin Zhao
2026-06-18 10:56 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] sched/fair: Optimize some active balance logic Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 13:56 ` Xin Zhao
2026-06-22 12:15 ` Aiqun(Maria) Yu
2026-06-30 9:03 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Reflow sched_balance_rq() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
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