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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, tj@kernel.org, williams@redhat.com,
	jkacur@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] sched: Remove sched_class::balance()
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 09:58:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260819075830.GF1246887@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260702114919.GA186418@bytedance.com>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 07:49:19PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:

> Assume cpuX and cpuY are siblings, it appears the following happened:
> 
>      cpuX                                      cpuY
> 
>    pick_next_task()
>    goto restart_multi
> 
>    rqX->core_pick = pick_task(rqX)
> 
>    pick_task(rqY)
>      pick_task_fair(rqY)
>        sched_balance_newidle(rqY)
>          raw_spin_rq_unlock(rqY)  // drops core lock
> 
>                                            pick_next_task()
>                                            goto restart_multi
>                                            rqY->core_pick = pick_task(rqY)
>                                            rqX->core_pick = pick_task(rqX)
> 
>                                            if (rqX->curr == rqX->core_pick)
>                                              rqX->core_pick = NULL
> 
> 					   UNLOCK rq_lockp(rqY)
> 
>          raw_spin_rq_lock(rqY)
> 
>    rqY->core_pick = pick_task(rqY)
> 
>    p = rqX->core_pick        // NULL
>    cookie_equals(p, cookie)  // NULL deref

Well, damn :/ That's a nice race. So while we did a lock-break, it does
not trigger RETRY_TASK and continues.

The 'easy' fix is taking a local copy of core_task_seq when we increase
it for the pick, and double checking that is still valid at the end and
then restarting if not.

Except that is susceptible to live-locks. It doesn't have forward
progress guarantees. For that we need to limit the amount of
lock-breaks/newidle invocations.

Bah, let me go poke at this for a bit.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-24 12:13 Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 12:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/core: Allow newidle for core-sched Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 23:56   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-25 12:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-25 12:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 12:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Remove sched_class::balance() Peter Zijlstra
2026-07-02 11:49 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Aaron Lu
2026-07-03  3:31   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-19  9:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-19  7:58   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-08-19 14:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-19 19:22       ` Tejun Heo
2026-08-20  7:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20  7:42           ` Tejun Heo
2026-08-20  7:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20 15:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20 17:15     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-21  7:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-21  2:44     ` Aaron Lu

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