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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2026 18:15:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260911181516.313a8a2f@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E2131B35-DE77-41D3-85C7-521143FF94A5@oracle.com>

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 15:30:03 +0000
Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com> wrote:

...
> > > > Do you know which part matters?   
> > > 
> > > No, but now that I am able to test the OSQ locks as a module, I'll
> > > quickly find out.  
> 
> Only the first hunk is allegedly required:
> 
> @@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ bool osq_lock(struct optimistic_spin_queue *lock)
>          * is implemented with a monitor-wait. vcpu_is_preempted() relies on
>          * polling, be careful.
>          */
> -       if (smp_cond_load_relaxed(&node->locked, VAL || need_resched() ||
> +       if (smp_cond_load_acquire(&node->locked, VAL || need_resched() ||
> 	    vcpu_is_preempted(node_cpu(node->prev))))
>                 return true;
> 
> I say allegedly because a passing test doesn't prove anything, it just
> gives a good indication that it is working.

Indeed.

> > That also means you can quickly check which _acquire/_release are definitely
> > required.  
> 
> I did it in another way. I just added an "atomic_xchg" test to my
> mutual exclusion framework.
> 
> Lock acquire:
>                 while (atomic_xchg_acquire(&el->mx_atomic_xchg.lock, 1) != 0)
>                         cpu_relax();
> 
> Lock release:
>                 atomic_set_release(&el->mx_atomic_xchg.lock, 0);
> 
> This passes. It also (obviously) passes with atomic_xchg() in the lock
> acquire. But the _release _is_ required in the lock release.

Isn't that accessing another branch of the 'big union'?
So will be overlaying some other field - possibly the count itself?
It seems unlikely that adding a barrier between the lock and unlock
(or unlock and lock) will have any effect.
In any case I think it is enough to use smp_rmb(), smp_wmb() or smp_mb().

David




  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-11 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  8:41 David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 1/9] locking/osq_lock: Add some comments about how it works David Laight
2026-09-09 14:57   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 2/9] locking/osq_lock: Save the cpu number for 'prev' not the node address David Laight
2026-09-09 17:36   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1 David Laight
2026-09-09 18:01   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 18:52     ` David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 4/9] locking/osq_lock: Delete 'fast path' code from osq_unlock() David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 5/9] locking/osq_lock: Avoid writing to node->next in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 6/9] locking/osq: Use cpu number for 'next' pointer David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 7/9] locking/osq: Use 'unsigned int' for next/prev/tail David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 8/9] locking/osq: inline encode_cpu() and rename decode_cpu() David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 9/9] locking/osq_lock: Swap next<->prev and tail<->head David Laight
2026-09-07 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code Linus Torvalds
2026-09-07 17:27   ` David Laight
2026-09-09 14:15     ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-09 19:09       ` David Laight
2026-09-09 20:14       ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 20:33         ` Waiman Long
2026-09-10  9:45           ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 11:00             ` David Laight
2026-09-10 11:31               ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 12:05                 ` David Laight
2026-09-10 15:30                   ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 16:22                     ` Waiman Long
2026-09-11 17:15                     ` David Laight [this message]
2026-09-11 10:08                 ` David Laight

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