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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 14:24:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260914142408.7bdf2cb4@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AE2D42C1-9B5A-4F5E-91FC-C84423ADE7AD@oracle.com>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 11:46:02 +0000
Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com> wrote:

> > On 11 Sep 2026, at 19:15, David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 15:30:03 +0000
> > Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com> wrote:  
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > I did it in another way. I just added an "atomic_xchg" test to my
> > > mutual exclusion framework.
> > > 
> > > Lock acquire:
> > >                 while (atomic_xchg_acquire(&el->mx_atomic_xchg.lock, 1) != 0)
> > >                         cpu_relax();
> > > 
> > > Lock release:
> > >                 atomic_set_release(&el->mx_atomic_xchg.lock, 0);
> > > 
> > > This passes. It also (obviously) passes with atomic_xchg() in the lock
> > > acquire. But the _release _is_ required in the lock release.  
> > 
> > Isn't that accessing another branch of the 'big union'?  
> 
> Not sure I quite understand. During the run of one particular test, it
> is _only_ the corresponding struct in the union that is
> accessed. 

I misunderstood what you'd done.
I thought you were adding an extra barrier to the osq_lock test.
One of the possibilities is that it is speculating all the way through
into the osq_unlock() code and the first read there is being done
before the read of node->locked in smp_cond_load_relaxed().
If adding smp_rmb() between osq_lock() and osq_unlock() doesn't fix
it then that isn't the problem.

This code really wants the cpu to speculate around the loop in
smp_cond_load_xxx() so that it doesn't load any other cache lines.
(I've not looked at the object code (any architecture) to try to guess
what happens.)

David

> 
> > So will be overlaying some other field - possibly the count itself?  
> 
> pahole gives:
> 
> struct {
> 	atomic_t           lock __attribute__((__aligned__(4))); /*     0     4 */
> 	/* XXX 4 bytes hole, try to pack */
> 	long int           counter;            /*     8     8 */
> } __attribute__((__aligned__(8))) mx_atomic_xchg __attribute__((__aligned__(8)));  /*     0    16 */
> 
> > It seems unlikely that adding a barrier between the lock and unlock
> > (or unlock and lock) will have any effect.
> > In any case I think it is enough to use smp_rmb(), smp_wmb() or smp_mb().  
> 
> That might well be, but the intent here was only to mimic
> the sequence atomic_xchg() in osq_lock() and corresponding
> atomic_try_cmpxchg_release() in osq_unlock().
> 
> 
> Thxs, Håkon
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-14 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  8:41 David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 1/9] locking/osq_lock: Add some comments about how it works David Laight
2026-09-09 14:57   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 2/9] locking/osq_lock: Save the cpu number for 'prev' not the node address David Laight
2026-09-09 17:36   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-15  8:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 11:11       ` David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1 David Laight
2026-09-09 18:01   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 18:52     ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:10         ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:08     ` David Laight
2026-09-15  8:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:14         ` David Laight
2026-09-15  8:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:20     ` David Laight
2026-09-15 10:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:55       ` David Laight
2026-09-15 14:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 4/9] locking/osq_lock: Delete 'fast path' code from osq_unlock() David Laight
2026-09-15 14:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 5/9] locking/osq_lock: Avoid writing to node->next in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 6/9] locking/osq: Use cpu number for 'next' pointer David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 7/9] locking/osq: Use 'unsigned int' for next/prev/tail David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 8/9] locking/osq: inline encode_cpu() and rename decode_cpu() David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 9/9] locking/osq_lock: Swap next<->prev and tail<->head David Laight
2026-09-07 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code Linus Torvalds
2026-09-07 17:27   ` David Laight
2026-09-09 14:15     ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-09 19:09       ` David Laight
2026-09-09 20:14       ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 20:33         ` Waiman Long
2026-09-10  9:45           ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 11:00             ` David Laight
2026-09-10 11:31               ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 12:05                 ` David Laight
2026-09-10 15:30                   ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 16:22                     ` Waiman Long
2026-09-11 17:15                     ` David Laight
2026-09-14 11:46                       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-14 13:24                         ` David Laight [this message]
2026-09-11 10:08                 ` David Laight

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