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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:01:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260915140152.GC4121339@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260915145513.111c4a23@pumpkin>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 02:55:13PM +0100, David Laight wrote:

> > That comment *should* obviously have been here. Also, I would *much*
> > rather have this store at the top, next to node->next = NULL; That is
> > much saner.
> 
> 
> Part of the original reason I started these patches was to remove
> the writes to the current cpu's 'node' in the fast path acquire.
> That completely saves reading the cache line.
> It also means the initial xchg need only have acquire semantics.

That makes no sense... you *have* to write node->prev_cpu, and since you
get to have the line dirty for that, a few more stores to the same line
are 'free', no?

Trying to make the code keep invariants like that also makes it
needlessly convoluted.

If you need a store -- and you do, then you might as well write the
whole thing.

And if you think it makes a difference, your changelogs completely lack
any factual data to that effect. That is, there are no numbers. And
without numbers, we're just not doing this.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  8:41 [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 1/9] locking/osq_lock: Add some comments about how it works David Laight
2026-09-09 14:57   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 2/9] locking/osq_lock: Save the cpu number for 'prev' not the node address David Laight
2026-09-09 17:36   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-15  8:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 11:11       ` David Laight
2026-09-15 17:27       ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1 David Laight
2026-09-09 18:01   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 18:52     ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:10         ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:08     ` David Laight
2026-09-15  8:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:14         ` David Laight
2026-09-15  8:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:20     ` David Laight
2026-09-15 10:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:55       ` David Laight
2026-09-15 14:01         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-09-15 17:47           ` David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 4/9] locking/osq_lock: Delete 'fast path' code from osq_unlock() David Laight
2026-09-15 14:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 5/9] locking/osq_lock: Avoid writing to node->next in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 6/9] locking/osq: Use cpu number for 'next' pointer David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 7/9] locking/osq: Use 'unsigned int' for next/prev/tail David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 8/9] locking/osq: inline encode_cpu() and rename decode_cpu() David Laight
2026-09-07  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 9/9] locking/osq_lock: Swap next<->prev and tail<->head David Laight
2026-09-07 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code Linus Torvalds
2026-09-07 17:27   ` David Laight
2026-09-09 14:15     ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-09 19:09       ` David Laight
2026-09-09 20:14       ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 20:33         ` Waiman Long
2026-09-10  9:45           ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 11:00             ` David Laight
2026-09-10 11:31               ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 12:05                 ` David Laight
2026-09-10 15:30                   ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 16:22                     ` Waiman Long
2026-09-11 17:15                     ` David Laight
2026-09-14 11:46                       ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-14 13:24                         ` David Laight
2026-09-11 10:08                 ` David Laight

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