From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:29:58 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260925122958.GH9354@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5afqyxkh0h.fsf@kernel.org>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 11:29:58AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:
>
> >> [ ... 18 lines skipped ... ]
> >> +int iommu_viommu_get_params(struct device *dev,
> >> + enum iommu_viommu_type type, void *params, size_t params_size)
> >> +{
> >
> > I imagined this would be a direct function call from TSM to iommu
> > driver? Is there a reason to do it this way? I think a TSM -> iommu
> > module dependency is OK
> >
>
> Do you mean that the TSM backend should call arm_smmu_get_realm_params()
> directly?
Yes
> I was trying to avoid that dependency. TSM depends only on
> iommufd, not on the SMMU driver.
I'm not sure there is a good reason to. RMM systems will always have a
SMMU.
Also TSM should only depend on iommu_driver if at all possible.
It is another reason to not like this because it pulls in a full
iommufd.ko dependency...
> Making this part of iommu_ops also simplifies supporting different
> get_params implementations for different hardware IOMMUs on the same
> architecture, if needed.
If that happens the TSM needs unique coding for all of them, and then
the direct link might be a bit of overhead.. But given people are not
making new iommus routinely (for good reason!) I would prefer to kick
that can down the road..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-25 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-17 14:01 [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/11] vfio: cache KVM VM file references instead of raw struct kvm pointers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/11] vfio: cdev: Reject duplicate bind before updating KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 7:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-25 5:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/11] iommufd/device: Associate KVM file pointer with iommufd_device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/11] iommufd/viommu: Keep a reference to the KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/11] iommu: Add a helper to validate a vIOMMU parent Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 5:48 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 5:59 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/11] coco: tsm: Expose active-user lifetime references Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 6:08 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/11] iommufd: Add the vdevice TSM request ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-18 13:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-09-18 13:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/11] PCI/TSM: Remove the legacy guest request interface Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 8:17 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 8:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:17 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24 7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 8:29 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25 6:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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