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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 13:45:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5a5wztkar7.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <179027891417.104879.16761593878106297870.b4-review@b4>

Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:

>> [ ... 32 lines skipped ... ]
>> @@ -676,17 +679,21 @@ Description:	(RO) Return PCI device name of this device's DSM (Device
>>  
>>  What:		/sys/bus/pci/devices/.../tsm/bound
>>  Contact:	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
>> -Description:	(RO) Return the device name of the TSM when the device is in a
>> -		TDISP (TEE Device Interface Security Protocol) operational state
>> -		(LOCKED, RUN, or ERROR, not UNLOCKED). Bound devices consume
>> -		platform TSM resources and depend on the device's configuration
>> -		(e.g. BME (Bus Master Enable) and MSE (Memory Space Enable)
>> -		among other settings) to remain stable for the duration of the
>> -		bound state. This attribute is only visible for devices that
>> -		support TDISP operation, and it is only populated after
>> -		successful connect and TSM bind. The TSM bind operation is
>> -		initiated by VFIO/IOMMUFD. This is a "link" TSM attribute, see
>> -		Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-tsm.
>> +Description:	(RO) Return the device name of the TSM when this PCI function
>> +		has a successfully initialized TSM-backed vdevice binding, or
>> +		an empty line when no such binding exists. The binding is
>> +		established through VFIO/IOMMUFD and remains visible until
>> +		the provider releases its context during vdevice teardown.
>> +		Merely connecting the device to a TSM or acquiring a context
>> +		does not establish a binding. Bindings of other functions
>> +		managed by the same DSM do not affect this attribute.
>> +
>> +		This reports the binding lifetime, not the current TDISP
>> +		(TEE Device Interface Security Protocol) state. A bound vdevice
>> +		may be UNLOCKED, and TDISP lock/unlock transitions do not
>> +		change this attribute. This attribute is only visible for
>> +		devices that support TDISP operation. This is a "link" TSM
>> +		attribute, see Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-tsm.
>
> Should we just delete this sysfs instead of torturing the code to
> implement it?
>
> Why would anyone ever read it? What purpose would it serve to read it?
>
> Leaking the iommufd vdevice outside the iommufd world is a horrible
> idea from a lifetime perspective. We should only do it with an
> incredibly strong reason. A debugging sysfs should be deleted. We can
> create a debugfs around the viommu if that is really important,
> somehow I doubt it is..

OK, I will drop support for the "tsm/bound" sysfs attribute.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 14:01 [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/11] vfio: cache KVM VM file references instead of raw struct kvm pointers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/11] vfio: cdev: Reject duplicate bind before updating KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-25  5:49     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/11] iommufd/device: Associate KVM file pointer with iommufd_device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/11] iommufd/viommu: Keep a reference to the KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/11] iommu: Add a helper to validate a vIOMMU parent Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:48     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:59     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/11] coco: tsm: Expose active-user lifetime references Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:08     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/11] iommufd: Add the vdevice TSM request ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-18 13:09   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-09-18 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/11] PCI/TSM: Remove the legacy guest request interface Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-09-17 14:17 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24  7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:29   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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