From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
Cc: Imre Kaloz <kaloz@kernel.org>,
Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
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Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add support for the IP35 (Bedrock hub) machines
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:34:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261022143440.4ddae87e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2610222009000.22065@angie.orcam.me.uk>
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:28:25 +0100 (BST) Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > The users are the people running these machines, the same population
> > > as for IP27 and IP30, and the ioc3-eth driver in net/ exists for them
> > > today. The series was developed and tested on a Fuel and a Tezro in
> > > regular use, so "nobody is using it with Linux" is true only in the
> > > sense that the support isn't merged yet; that was equally true of IP30
> > > when it went in for 5.5, and of every port before it.
> >
> > Not sure if you followed the discussions at the recent maintainer
> > summit but we are now allowed to be more opinionated about code
> > we merge. Merging code just to test that code seems like entertainment
> > for the authors, not useful development.
>
> I thought the event was by invitation only.
LWN posts a great summary.
> Anyway, this seems to me like discouraging enthusiasts who do their work
> outside their day job from making contributions. Their natural target are
> commercially worthless systems, since working for free on commercially
> valuable systems would be taking away someone's bread and I think grossly
> undeserved support for corporations. Taking this stance effectively would
> be cutting Linux off from its origins and making it a commercial project.
Or. Perhaps. By pushing this useless retro-hobbist hogwash you're
contributing to the burn out of genuine maintainers, pushing the
project into the hands of people who do have anterior motives.
Who is to say..
> Please let's not go down this route and only base the acceptance, or not,
> of submissions on quality merits. Many of us took this route to Linux, by
> showing competence in public with work done for free, and some of us still
> enjoy such side project even if we do have a day job now that involves
> Linux development. Let's not close this option to people.
Who cares about quality of code nobody will run?
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-13 13:16 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: refuse device numbers past the last slot Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: assign slots the PROM leaves unconfigured Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: write a type 1 IOC3 through the type 1 window Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: flush config space writes Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: reassign slots whose devio window maps elsewhere Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/53] MIPS: Xtalk: guard the widget identification table from assembly Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: dump the NMI save areas the CPU scan recorded Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add REMOTE_HUB_PI_S()/REMOTE_HUB_PI_L() Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: detect Bedrock hubs at boot Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: widen Kconfig for the Bedrock-based machines Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 11/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: fold the dead SN1 arm out of klconfig.h Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 12/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: choose the node address layout at runtime Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 13/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add the Bedrock hub register windows Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 14/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: decode a Bedrock hub's node id and system size Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 15/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: put a Bedrock hub's boot CPU in slot 0 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 16/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: lay out node memory in 1GB banks on Bedrock hubs Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 17/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: reserve the bottom 64MB of node 0 " Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 18/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: route interrupt masks and slices through both PIs Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 19/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: address a CPU's own PI for NMI, IPI and RT counter Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 20/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: take a CPU's node from the CPU table in per_cpu_init() Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 21/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: resolve the mapped-kernel node shift at runtime Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 22/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: load the kernel at node offset 0x40000 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 23/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: xbow_probe(): recognize KLTYPE_PBRICK_XBOW Imre Kaloz
2026-10-24 10:12 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 24/53] MIPS: ip27_defconfig: enable the IOC3 MFD, its cell drivers and tg3 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 25/53] net: ethernet: sgi: ioc3-eth: apply the DMA attributes only to 64-bit addresses Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 26/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: pick the XBridge and PIC DMA address form by mask Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 27/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: recognize the PXBow crossbar Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 28/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: recognize the PIC widget's 64-bit-only registers Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 29/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: match PIC's register-level differences Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 30/53] rtc: m48t35: support the SGI IP35 timekeeper's 1968 year base Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 14:28 ` Alexandre Belloni
2026-10-16 23:09 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 31/53] mfd: ioc3: Add support for IOC4 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-20 12:02 ` Lee Jones
2026-10-20 21:07 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 32/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: dispatch the early console between IOC3 and IOC4 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 33/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add L1 system controller support Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 34/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: wire the L1 into reset and the Ethernet address Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 35/53] MIPS: PCI: xtalk-bridge: take the board part number from the L1 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 36/53] mfd: ioc3: Add IP34 system-board entry to ioc3_infos[] Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 37/53] mfd: ioc3: Cross the serial IRQs on the Origin 300 IO8 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 38/53] net: ethernet: sgi: ioc3-eth: fall back to the platform MAC address Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:16 ` [PATCH v2 39/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: don't register a w1 master on an XBridge or PIC Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 40/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: report a Bedrock machine as SGI IP35 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 41/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: identify the machine by the L1 brick type Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 42/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: register the Odyssey graphics widget Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 43/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: take the console from the KLCONFIG header on IP35 Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 44/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: give each CPU its own topology package id Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 45/53] ata: add pata_sgiioc4 driver for the SGI IOC4 ATA/ATAPI controller Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 46/53] mfd: ioc3: Add IOC4 ATA/ATAPI cell Imre Kaloz
2026-10-20 12:12 ` Lee Jones
2026-10-20 21:08 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 47/53] MAINTAINERS: add an entry for the SGI IOC4 ATA driver Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 13:38 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 15:13 ` Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 48/53] MIPS: ip27_defconfig: update for the onboard hardware Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 49/53] MIPS: ip27_defconfig: enable pata_sgiioc4 and the DVD-ROM path Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 50/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add L1 front-panel LED and display requests Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 51/53] leds: Add driver for the SGI Fuel and Tezro front-panel LEDs Imre Kaloz
2026-10-20 12:20 ` Lee Jones
2026-10-20 21:08 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 52/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: show the OS state on the Fuel and Tezro front panels Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v2 53/53] MIPS: ip27_defconfig: enable the Fuel and Tezro front-panel LEDs Imre Kaloz
2026-10-13 13:35 ` [PATCH v2 00/53] MIPS: SGI-IP27: add support for the IP35 (Bedrock hub) machines Niklas Cassel
2026-10-13 14:25 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-20 18:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-20 20:42 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-20 21:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-21 9:05 ` Imre Kaloz
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-22 19:28 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-10-22 21:34 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
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