From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/19] PCI: Replace untrusted state with device trust
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 10:25:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261110142534.GY663069@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110122237.GG8635@unreal>
On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 02:22:37PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 01:53:02PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > On 09/11/2026 7:33 am, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > [...]
> > > diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> > > index b486b8bbd1fcd..8be2a246d4903 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> > > @@ -1879,7 +1879,7 @@ static int iommu_get_def_domain_type(struct iommu_group *group,
> > > static int iommu_get_default_domain_type(struct iommu_group *group,
> > > int target_type)
> > > {
> > > - struct device *untrusted = NULL;
> > > + struct device *restricted = NULL;
> > > struct group_device *gdev;
> > > int driver_type = 0;
> > > @@ -1901,14 +1901,15 @@ static int iommu_get_default_domain_type(struct iommu_group *group,
> > > driver_type = iommu_get_def_domain_type(group, gdev->dev,
> > > driver_type);
> > > - if (dev_is_pci(gdev->dev) && to_pci_dev(gdev->dev)->untrusted) {
> > > + if (dev_is_pci(gdev->dev) &&
> > > + pci_dev_default_is_restricted(to_pci_dev(gdev->dev))) {
> >
> > I think this should be the generic device_is_adversarial(gdev->dev) now - in
> > fact probably all the dev_is_pci()/to_pci_dev() stanzas aren't conceptually
> > PCI-specific, just an artefact of the current "untrusted" flag being so.
>
> I wanted to do the same, but iommu_get_default_domain_type() may be called
> before the PCI device's trust level has been set. At that point, we are
> still in "disabled" mode, whereas device_is_adversarial() checks for
> "adversarial" mode.
>
> The below is from AI, I asked to present me the path for that:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> For a newly discovered PCI device with an available IOMMU and a new IOMMU group:
> pci_scan_single_device()
> pci_device_add()
> device_add()
> bus_notify(dev, BUS_NOTIFY_ADD_DEVICE)
> blocking_notifier_call_chain()
> notifier_call_chain()
> iommu_bus_notifier()
> iommu_probe_device(dev)
> __iommu_probe_device(dev, NULL)
> iommu_setup_default_domain(group, 0)
> iommu_get_default_domain_type(group, 0)
>
> For a device whose initial policy is adversary, its state during that call is:
> dev->trust_policy = DEVICE_TRUST_POLICY_ADVERSARY
> dev->trust_level = DEVICE_TRUST_DISABLED
> dev->trust_committed_level = DEVICE_TRUST_DISABLED
> dev->driver = NULL
>
> device_is_adversarial(dev) = false
>
> The active level changes later, during binding:
> really_probe()
> device_trust_prepare()
> __device_trust_prepare()
> WRITE_ONCE(dev->trust_level, DEVICE_TRUST_ADVERSARY)
> dev->bus->dma_configure()
> call_driver_probe()
The ordering here is wrong, this is a consequence of splitting this
into different series. I don't think we need to fix it in this series,
but as a followup. For now I would aim to make 'no functional change'
and still follow the ACPI selection during default domain creation.
The long term goal is to detect that the trust level is disabled
during iommu_probe_device() (ie we are running in a secure booting
mode), attach the device to BLOCKED (which should be a NOP) and defer
allocating the default domain.
This would preserve the DRTM iommu & ATS blocked behavior through
until driver binding, giving userspace a chance to do an attestation,
turn on link ide and so on before exposing the system to DMA from the
device.
Once userspace sets the trust level and binds a driver then we can
allocate a default domain using the user set trust level and avoid the
above problem.
For the CC VM use case today there won't be a vIOMMU, and there is an
indepenent control for DMA ENABLE in the TSM driver so this doesn't
matter right now for CC.
Probably put this detail in the commit message
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-10 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-09 7:33 [PATCH v2 00/19] driver core: Authorize device trust before driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] Input: gameport - attach manual drivers through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] wifi: mac80211_hwsim: lock device for manual driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] USB: Lock registered interfaces during " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] USB: Release interface claims refused during registration Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] PNP: Attach card devices through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] cdx: Propagate DMA configuration errors Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] driver core: Report deferred probes through sysfs drivers_probe Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] driver core: Add a compatibility API for manual driver attachment Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] Input: serio - use the compatibility driver attachment API Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] net: phy: Use " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 13:45 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-10 7:39 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] driver core: Introduce a generic device trust level Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] driver core: Expose device trust authorization interfaces Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] driver core: Accept device trust policy on the kernel command line Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] driver core: Accept device trust policy by driver name Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] driver core: Expose committed device trust level Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] driver core: Cover trust authorization and binding with KUnit Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] driver core: Document trust admission and initrd authorization Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] PCI: Replace untrusted state with device trust Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-09 13:53 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-10 12:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-10 14:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-11-09 7:33 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] USB: Authorize devices and interfaces through " Leon Romanovsky
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