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From: Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
To: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
Cc: dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@ti.com>,
	Mans Rullgard <mans@mansr.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>
Subject: Re: Tearing down DMA transfer setup after DMA client has finished
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:25:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20fc9020-7278-bc2f-2a8d-43aff5cabff8@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <092f44ee-4560-be17-25f7-00948dba3cfa@free.fr>

[ Nothing new added below.
  Vinod, was the description of my HW's quirks clear enough?
  Is there a way to write a driver within the existing framework?
  How can I get that HW block supported upstream?
  Regards. ]

On 25/11/2016 13:46, Mason wrote:

> On 25/11/2016 05:55, Vinod Koul wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:25:44AM +0100, Mason wrote:
>>
>>> On my platform, setting up a DMA transfer is a two-step process:
>>>
>>> 1) configure the "switch box" to connect a device to a memory channel
>>> 2) configure the transfer details (address, size, command)
>>>
>>> When the transfer is done, the sbox setup can be torn down,
>>> and the DMA driver can start another transfer.
>>>
>>> The current software architecture for my NFC (NAND Flash controller)
>>> driver is as follows (for one DMA transfer).
>>>
>>>   sg_init_one
>>>   dma_map_sg
>>>   dmaengine_prep_slave_sg
>>>   dmaengine_submit
>>>   dma_async_issue_pending
>>>   configure_NFC_transfer
>>>   wait_for_IRQ_from_DMA_engine // via DMA_PREP_INTERRUPT
>>>   wait_for_NFC_idle
>>>   dma_unmap_sg
>>
>> Looking at thread and discussion now, first thinking would be to ensure
>> the transaction is completed properly and then isr fired. You may need
>> to talk to your HW designers to find a way for that. It is quite common
>> that DMA controllers will fire and complete whereas the transaction is
>> still in flight.
> 
> It seems there is a disconnect between what Linux expects - an IRQ
> when the transfer is complete - and the quirks of this HW :-(
> 
> On this system, there are MBUS "agents" connected via a "switch box".
> An agent fires an IRQ when it has dealt with its *half* of the transfer.
> 
> SOURCE_AGENT <---> SBOX <---> DESTINATION_AGENT
> 
> Here are the steps for a transfer, in the general case:
> 
> 1) setup the sbox to connect SOURCE TO DEST
> 2) configure source to send N bytes
> 3) configure dest to receive N bytes
> 
> When SOURCE_AGENT has sent N bytes, it fires an IRQ
> When DEST_AGENT has received N bytes, it fires an IRQ
> The sbox connection can be torn down only when the destination
> agent has received all bytes.
> (And the twist is that some agents do not have an IRQ line.)
> 
> The system provides 3 RAM-to-sbox agents (read channels)
> and 3 sbox-to-RAM agents (write channels).
> 
> The NAND Flash controller read and write agents do not have
> IRQ lines.
> 
> So for a NAND-to-memory transfer (read from device)
> - nothing happens when the NFC has finished sending N bytes to the sbox
> - the write channel fires an IRQ when it has received N bytes
> 
> In that case, one IRQ fires when the transfer is complete,
> like Linux expects.
> 
> For a memory-to-NAND transfer (write to device)
> - the read channel fires an IRQ when it has sent N bytes
> - the NFC driver is supposed to poll the NFC to determine
> when the controller has finished writing N bytes
> 
> In that case, the IRQ does not indicate that the transfer
> is complete, merely that the sending half has finished
> its part.
> 
> For a memory-to-memory transfer (memcpy)
> - the read channel fires an IRQ when it has sent N bytes
> - the write channel fires an IRQ when it has received N bytes
> 
> So you actually get two IRQs in that case, which I don't
> think Linux (or the current DMA driver) expects.
> 
> I'm not sure how we're supposed to handle this kind of HW
> in Linux? (That's why I started this thread.)
> 
> 
>> If that is not doable, then since you claim this is custom part which
>> other vendors won't use (hope we are wrong down the line),
> 
> I'm not sure how to interpret "you claim this is custom part".
> Do you mean I may be wrong, that it is not custom?
> I don't know if other vendors may have HW with the same
> quirky behavior. What do you mean about being wrong down
> the line?
> 
>> then we can have a custom api,
>>
>> foo_sbox_configure(bool enable, ...);
>>
>> This can be invoked from NFC driver when required for configuration and
>> teardown. For very specific cases where people need some specific
>> configuration we do allow custom APIs.
> 
> I don't think that would work. The fundamental issue is
> that Linux expects a single IRQ to indicate "transfer
> complete". And the driver (as written) starts a new
> transfer as soon as the IRQ fires.
> 
> But the HW may generate 0, 1, or even 2 IRQs for a single
> transfer. And when there is a single IRQ, it may not
> indicate "transfer complete" (as seen above).
> 
>> Only problem with that would be it wont be a generic solution
>> and you seem to be fine with that.
> 
> I think it is possible to have a generic solution:
> Right now, the callback is called from tasklet context.
> If we can have a new flag to have the callback invoked
> directly from the ISR, then the driver for the client
> device can do what is required.
> 
> For example, the NFC driver waits for the IRQ from the
> memory agent, and then polls the controller itself.
> 
> I can whip up a proof-of-concept if it's better to
> illustrate with a patch?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23 10:25 Mason
2016-11-23 12:13 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-23 12:41   ` Mason
2016-11-23 17:21     ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 10:53       ` Mason
2016-11-24 14:17         ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 15:20           ` Mason
2016-11-24 16:37             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25  4:55 ` Vinod Koul
2016-11-25 11:57   ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:05     ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:12       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:28         ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:42           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:45   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:07     ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:34       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:50         ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:58           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:03             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:17               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:40                 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:56                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 15:08                     ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:02                 ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:12                   ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:21                     ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:28                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:46   ` Mason
2016-11-25 13:11     ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:21       ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:37         ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:35           ` Mason
2016-11-29 18:25     ` Mason [this message]
2016-12-06  5:12       ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-06 12:42         ` Mason
2016-12-06 13:14           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-06 15:24             ` Mason
2016-12-06 15:34               ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-06 22:55                 ` Mason
2016-12-07 16:43             ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:45               ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:39                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 10:54                   ` Mason
2016-12-08 11:18                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 11:47                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:03                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:17                           ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:21                           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 16:37                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:48                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09  6:59                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 10:25                           ` Sebastian Frias
2016-12-09 11:34                             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 11:35                             ` 1Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:17                             ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:28                               ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:53                                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:34                               ` Mason
2016-12-09 17:56                                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:17                                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:23                                   ` Mason
2016-12-12  5:01                                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-15 11:17                                     ` Mark Brown
2016-12-08 11:44                   ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 11:59                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:20                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:31                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:41                         ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:44                           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 13:29                             ` Mason
2016-12-08 13:39                               ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:50                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:36                           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:40                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 15:43                       ` Mason
2016-12-08 16:21                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:46                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-07 16:41           ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:44             ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:37               ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 11:44                 ` Måns Rullgård

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