From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Mark Brown <broonie@linaro.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jon Mason <jon.mason@intel.com>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Tearing down DMA transfer setup after DMA client has finished
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 15:12:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xoa137fvr.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d996bcdb-2413-770c-84d1-1b12ccd74477@free.fr> (Mason's message of "Fri, 25 Nov 2016 16:02:44 +0100")
Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> writes:
> On 25/11/2016 15:17, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 02:03:20PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>>> Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 01:50:35PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>>>>> Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
>>>>>> It would be unfair to augment the API and add the burden on everyone
>>>>>> for the new API when 99.999% of the world doesn't require it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think making this particular dma driver wait for the descriptor
>>>>> callback to return before reusing a channel quite amounts to a horrid
>>>>> hack. It certainly wouldn't burden anyone other than the poor drivers
>>>>> for devices connected to it, all of which are specific to Sigma AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>> Except when you stop to think that delaying in a tasklet is exactly
>>>> the same as randomly delaying in an interrupt handler - the tasklet
>>>> runs on the return path back to the parent context of an interrupt
>>>> handler. Even if you sleep in the tasklet, you're sleeping on behalf
>>>> of the currently executing thread - if it's a RT thread, you effectively
>>>> destroy the RT-ness of the thread. Let's hope no one cares about RT
>>>> performance on that hardware...
>>>
>>> That's why I suggested to do this only if the needed delay is known to
>>> be no more than a few bus cycles. The completion callback is currently
>>> the only post-transfer interaction we have between the dma and device
>>> drivers. To handle an arbitrarily long delay, some new interface will
>>> be required.
>>
>> And now we're back at the point I made a few emails ago about undue
>> burden which is just about quoted above...
>
> I've had several talks with the HW dev, and I don't think they
> anticipated the need to mux the 3 channels. In their minds,
> customers would choose at most 3 devices to support, and
> assign one channel to each device statically.
>
> In fact, in tango4, supported devices are:
> A) NAND Flash controllers 0 and 1
> NB: the upstream driver only uses controller 0
> B) IDE or SATA controllers 0 and 1
> C) a few crypto HW blocks which do not work as expected (unused)
>
> Customers typically use 1 channel for NAND, maybe 1 for SATA,
> and 1 channel remains unused.
The hardware has two sata controllers, and I have a board that uses both.
--
Måns Rullgård
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-25 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 10:25 Mason
2016-11-23 12:13 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-23 12:41 ` Mason
2016-11-23 17:21 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 10:53 ` Mason
2016-11-24 14:17 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 15:20 ` Mason
2016-11-24 16:37 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 4:55 ` Vinod Koul
2016-11-25 11:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:05 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:28 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:42 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:07 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:50 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:03 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:40 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 15:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:02 ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:12 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2016-11-25 15:21 ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:46 ` Mason
2016-11-25 13:11 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:21 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:37 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:35 ` Mason
2016-11-29 18:25 ` Mason
2016-12-06 5:12 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-06 12:42 ` Mason
2016-12-06 13:14 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-06 15:24 ` Mason
2016-12-06 15:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-06 22:55 ` Mason
2016-12-07 16:43 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:39 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 10:54 ` Mason
2016-12-08 11:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 11:47 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:17 ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:21 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 16:37 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 6:59 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 10:25 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-12-09 11:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 11:35 ` 1Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:17 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:53 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:34 ` Mason
2016-12-09 17:56 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:17 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:23 ` Mason
2016-12-12 5:01 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-15 11:17 ` Mark Brown
2016-12-08 11:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 11:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:41 ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 13:29 ` Mason
2016-12-08 13:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:50 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:36 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:40 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 15:43 ` Mason
2016-12-08 16:21 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-07 16:41 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:37 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 11:44 ` Måns Rullgård
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