From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@ti.com>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net>,
Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>
Subject: Re: Tearing down DMA transfer setup after DMA client has finished
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:34:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xshq12hr9.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5846D814.9010106@free.fr> (Mason's message of "Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:24:04 +0100")
Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr> writes:
> On 06/12/2016 14:14, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>
>> Mason wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/12/2016 06:12, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 07:25:02PM +0100, Mason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to write a driver within the existing framework?
>>>>
>>>> I think so, looking back at comments from Russell, I do tend to agree with
>>>> that. Is there a specific reason why sbox can't be tied to alloc and free
>>>> channels?
>>>
>>> Here's a recap of the situation.
>>>
>>> The "SBOX+MBUS" HW is used in several iterations of the tango SoC:
>>>
>>> tango3
>>> 2 memory channels available
>>> 6 devices ("clients"?) may request an MBUS channel
>>>
>>> tango4 (one more channel)
>>> 3 memory channels available
>>> 7 devices may request an MBUS channel :
>>> NFC0, NFC1, SATA0, SATA1, memcpy, (IDE0, IDE1)
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> The current NFC driver supports only one controller.
>>
>> I consider that a bug.
>
> Meh. The two controller blocks share the I/O pins to the outside
> world, so it's not possible to have two concurrent accesses.
OK, you failed to mention that part. Why are there two controllers at
all if only one or the other can be used?
>>> If I understand the current DMA driver (written by Mans), client
>>> drivers are instructed to use a specific channel in the DT, and
>>> the DMA driver muxes access to that channel.
>>
>> Almost. The DT indicates the sbox ID of each device. The driver
>> multiplexes requests from all devices across all channels.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. I misremembered the DT.
> So a client's DT node specifies the client's SBOX port.
> And the DMA node specifies all available MBUS channels.
>
> So when an interrupt fires, the DMA driver (re)uses that
> channel for the next transfer in line?
Correct.
>>> The DMA driver manages a per-channel queue of outstanding DMA transfer
>>> requests, and a new transfer is started from within the DMA ISR
>>> (modulo the fact that the interrupt does not signal completion of the
>>> transfer, as explained else-thread).
>>
>> We need to somehow let the device driver signal the dma driver when a
>> transfer has been fully completed. Currently the only post-transfer
>> interaction between the dma engine and the device driver is through the
>> descriptor callback, which is not suitable for this purpose.
>
> The callback is called from vchan_complete() right?
> Is that running from interrupt context?
It runs from a tasklet which is almost the same thing.
> What's the relationship between vchan_complete() and
> tangox_dma_irq() -- does one call the other? Are they
> asynchronous?
>
>> This is starting to look like one of those situations where someone just
>> needs to implement a solution, or we'll be forever bickering about
>> hypotheticals.
>
> I can give that a shot (if you're busy with real work).
I have an idea I'd like to try out over the weekend. If I don't come
back with something by next week, go for it.
>>> What you're proposing, Vinod, is to make a channel exclusive
>>> to a driver, as long as the driver has not explicitly released
>>> the channel, via dma_release_channel(), right?
>>
>> That's not going to work very well. Device drivers typically request
>> dma channels in their probe functions or when the device is opened.
>> This means that reserving one of the few channels there will inevitably
>> make some other device fail to operate.
>
> This is true for tango3. Less so for tango4. And no longer
> an issue for tango5.
>
>> Doing a request/release per transfer really doesn't fit with the
>> intended usage of the dmaengine api. For starters, what should a driver
>> do if all the channels are currently busy?
>
> Why can't we queue channel requests the same way we queue
> transfer requests?
That's in effect what we're doing. Calling it by another name doesn't
really solve anything.
--
Måns Rullgård
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-06 15:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 10:25 Mason
2016-11-23 12:13 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-23 12:41 ` Mason
2016-11-23 17:21 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 10:53 ` Mason
2016-11-24 14:17 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-24 15:20 ` Mason
2016-11-24 16:37 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 4:55 ` Vinod Koul
2016-11-25 11:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:05 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:28 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:42 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:07 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 13:50 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 13:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:03 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 14:40 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-11-25 15:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:02 ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:21 ` Mason
2016-11-25 15:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 12:46 ` Mason
2016-11-25 13:11 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 14:21 ` Mason
2016-11-25 14:37 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-11-25 15:35 ` Mason
2016-11-29 18:25 ` Mason
2016-12-06 5:12 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-06 12:42 ` Mason
2016-12-06 13:14 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-06 15:24 ` Mason
2016-12-06 15:34 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2016-12-06 22:55 ` Mason
2016-12-07 16:43 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:39 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 10:54 ` Mason
2016-12-08 11:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 11:47 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:17 ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:21 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 16:37 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:48 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 6:59 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 10:25 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-12-09 11:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 11:35 ` 1Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:17 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-09 17:53 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 17:34 ` Mason
2016-12-09 17:56 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:17 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-09 18:23 ` Mason
2016-12-12 5:01 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-15 11:17 ` Mark Brown
2016-12-08 11:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 11:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 12:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:41 ` Mason
2016-12-08 12:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 13:29 ` Mason
2016-12-08 13:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:50 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:36 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 15:40 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 15:43 ` Mason
2016-12-08 16:21 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 16:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-07 16:41 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-07 16:44 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-12-08 10:37 ` Vinod Koul
2016-12-08 11:44 ` Måns Rullgård
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