From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: carlos <carlos@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 for 4.15 01/14] Restartable sequences system call
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:17:43 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21865534.42661.1508192263844.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171016164600.GO2482@two.firstfloor.org>
----- On Oct 16, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Andi Kleen andi@firstfloor.org wrote:
>> How you collect, summarize, and analyze that overwhelming evidence
>> is up to you, specific to each change, and difficult to do accurately
>> and with any large measure of statistical confidence. The reviewer
>> has to basically trust you to some degree :-)
>
> I think Linus' just asked for some working "real world, not micro" code that
> demonstrates use.
>
> A prototype type implementation of the glibc malloc cache using this may
> be good enough.
>
> Even if the API still changes slightly later in review I would assume
> the basic concepts will stay the same, so it would be likely not
> too difficult to convert that prototype to the later final API.
In that respect, I have working prototypes of two non-trivial library
projects using rseq within the same process.
Those can be considered as being "early adopters" of rseq, before it
becomes available in glibc.
- liburcu per-cpu flavor prototype [1]
Interesting bits at
https://github.com/compudj/userspace-rcu-dev/blob/urcu-percpu/include/urcu/static/urcu-percpu.h
https://github.com/compudj/userspace-rcu-dev/blob/urcu-percpu/src/urcu-percpu.c
(it also has its own copy of rseq and cpu-opv helper libraries)
- lttng-ust tracer rseq prototype [2, 3]
Interesting bits at
https://github.com/compudj/lttng-ust-dev/blob/rseq-integration-oct-2017/libringbuffer/getcpu.h#L85
https://github.com/compudj/lttng-ust-dev/blob/rseq-integration-oct-2017/libringbuffer/vatomic.h#L60
(it also has its own copy of rseq and cpu-opv helper libraries)
They use a slightly updated version of the rseq patchset, which I
plan to push into a new "rseq" tree on kernel.org soon. It takes care
of the comments I received in the past few days.
They end up sharing the "__rseq_abi" TLS weak symbol (initial state of
cpu_id = -1). They lazy-detect whether rseq needs to be registered for
the current thread by checking if the cpu_id read from the rseq TLS
is < 0. If rseq registration fails, they set its value to -2 and won't
try to register again (will use their fallback). When they successfully
register, they setup a pthread_key so rseq is unregistered when the
thread exits.
So far the restrictions I see for libraries using this symbol are:
- They should never be unloaded,
- They should never be loaded with dlopen RTLD_LOCAL flag.
If those are considered acceptable limitations, then we can stick to
the "single rseq TLS per thread" rule, and we don't have to implement
a linked-list of rseq TLS per thread.
When glibc eventually adds support for rseq, I expect it to deal with
rseq TLS registration and unregistration at thread creation/exit.
Therefore, the checks for negative cpu_id performed by lttng-ust and
liburcu will figure out that rseq is already registered, and skip
registration altogether when it's already performed by glibc.
Thoughts ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
[1] https://github.com/compudj/userspace-rcu-dev/tree/urcu-percpu
[2] https://github.com/compudj/lttng-ust-dev/tree/rseq-integration-oct-2017
[3] https://github.com/compudj/lttng-tools-dev/tree/urcu-percpu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-16 22:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-12 23:03 [RFC PATCH v9 for 4.15 00/14] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector system calls Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH v9 for 4.15 01/14] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 0:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-13 9:35 ` Ben Maurer
2017-10-13 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-13 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-13 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-13 21:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-13 21:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-16 16:04 ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-10-16 16:46 ` Andi Kleen
2017-10-16 22:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2017-10-17 16:19 ` Ben Maurer
2017-10-17 16:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-17 16:41 ` Ben Maurer
2017-10-17 17:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-18 6:22 ` Greg KH
2017-10-18 16:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-14 3:01 ` Andi Kleen
2017-10-14 4:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-14 11:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 12:50 ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-13 13:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 13:56 ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-13 14:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 17:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-13 17:53 ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-13 18:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14 11:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-18 16:41 ` Ben Maurer
2017-10-18 18:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-19 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-19 17:01 ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-23 17:30 ` Ben Maurer
2017-10-23 20:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 02/14] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/14] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/14] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/14] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/14] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/14] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 08/14] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/14] Provide cpu_opv " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 13:57 ` Alan Cox
2017-10-13 14:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-14 14:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14 2:50 ` Andi Kleen
2017-10-14 13:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 10/14] cpu_opv: Wire up x86 32/64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/14] cpu_opv: Wire up powerpc " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 12/14] cpu_opv: Wire up ARM32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 13/14] cpu_opv: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 14/14] Restartable sequences: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-16 2:51 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-16 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-17 10:38 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-17 13:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-16 18:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-17 10:36 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-17 13:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-18 5:45 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-16 3:00 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-16 3:48 ` Boqun Feng
2017-10-16 11:48 ` Michael Ellerman
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