From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
jgross@suse.com, sdeep@vmware.com, pv-drivers@vmware.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, kys@microsoft.com,
sthemmin@microsoft.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 03/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC in nanoseconds as a perf event clock
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 14:36:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <30383f92-59cb-2875-1e1b-ff1a0eacd235@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YiXVgEk/1UClkygX@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 07/03/2022 11:50, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:45PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>> On 04/03/2022 15:41, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 01:09:06PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>> Currently, when Intel PT is used within a VM guest, it is not possible to
>>>> make use of TSC because perf clock is subject to paravirtualization.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so how much of that still makes sense, or ever did? AFAIK the
>>> whole pv_clock thing is utter crazy. Should we not fix that instead?
>>
>> Presumably pv_clock must work with different host operating systems.
>> Similarly, KVM must work with different guest operating systems.
>> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I imagine re-engineering time virtualization
>> might be a pretty big deal, far exceeding the scope of these patches.
>
> I think not; on both counts. That is, I don't think it's going to be
> hard, and even it if were, it would still be the right thing to do.
>
> We're not going to add interface just to work around a known broken
> piece of crap just because we don't want to fix it.
>
> So I'm thinking we should do the below and simply ignore any paravirt
> sched clock offered when there's ART on.
>
> ---
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
> index 4420499f7bb4..a1f179ed39bf 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
> @@ -145,6 +145,15 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_CALL(pv_sched_clock, native_sched_clock);
>
> void paravirt_set_sched_clock(u64 (*func)(void))
> {
> + /*
> + * Anything with ART on promises to have sane TSC, otherwise the whole
> + * ART thing is useless. In order to make ART useful for guests, we
> + * should continue to use the TSC. As such, ignore any paravirt
> + * muckery.
> + */
> + if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_ART))
Does not seem to work because the feature X86_FEATURE_ART does not seem to get set.
Possibly because detect_art() excludes anything running on a hypervisor.
> + return;
> +
> static_call_update(pv_sched_clock, func);
> }
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-07 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-14 11:09 [PATCH V2 00/11] perf intel-pt: Add perf event clocks to better support VM tracing Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 01/11] perf/x86: Fix native_perf_sched_clock_from_tsc() with __sched_clock_offset Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 02/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC as a perf event clock Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 12:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 13:03 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 17:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-04 12:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 12:41 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 03/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC in nanoseconds " Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 18:27 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-07 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-07 10:06 ` Juergen Gross
2022-03-07 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-07 10:58 ` Juergen Gross
2022-03-07 12:36 ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2022-03-07 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-08 14:23 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-08 21:06 ` Hall, Christopher S
2022-03-14 11:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25 5:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25 9:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-25 13:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25 17:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-26 6:51 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-27 23:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 7:20 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 04/11] perf tools: Add new perf clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 05/11] perf tools: Add API probes for new " Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 06/11] perf tools: Add new clock IDs to "perf time to TSC" test Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 07/11] perf tools: Add perf_read_tsc_conv_for_clockid() Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 08/11] perf intel-pt: Add support for new clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 09/11] perf intel-pt: Use CLOCK_PERF_HW_CLOCK_NS by default Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 10/11] perf intel-pt: Add config variables for timing parameters Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 11/11] perf intel-pt: Add documentation for new clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-21 6:54 ` [PATCH V2 00/11] perf intel-pt: Add perf event clocks to better support VM tracing Adrian Hunter
2022-03-01 11:06 ` Adrian Hunter
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