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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
	jgross@suse.com, sdeep@vmware.com, pv-drivers@vmware.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, kys@microsoft.com,
	sthemmin@microsoft.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 03/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC in nanoseconds as a perf event clock
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 10:50:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiXVgEk/1UClkygX@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <853ce127-25f0-d0fe-1d8f-0b0dd4f3ce71@intel.com>

On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:45PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> On 04/03/2022 15:41, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 01:09:06PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> >> Currently, when Intel PT is used within a VM guest, it is not possible to
> >> make use of TSC because perf clock is subject to paravirtualization.
> > 
> > Yeah, so how much of that still makes sense, or ever did? AFAIK the
> > whole pv_clock thing is utter crazy. Should we not fix that instead?
> 
> Presumably pv_clock must work with different host operating systems.
> Similarly, KVM must work with different guest operating systems.
> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I imagine re-engineering time virtualization
> might be a pretty big deal,  far exceeding the scope of these patches.

I think not; on both counts. That is, I don't think it's going to be
hard, and even it if were, it would still be the right thing to do.

We're not going to add interface just to work around a known broken
piece of crap just because we don't want to fix it.

So I'm thinking we should do the below and simply ignore any paravirt
sched clock offered when there's ART on.

---
diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
index 4420499f7bb4..a1f179ed39bf 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
@@ -145,6 +145,15 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_CALL(pv_sched_clock, native_sched_clock);
 
 void paravirt_set_sched_clock(u64 (*func)(void))
 {
+	/*
+	 * Anything with ART on promises to have sane TSC, otherwise the whole
+	 * ART thing is useless. In order to make ART useful for guests, we
+	 * should continue to use the TSC. As such, ignore any paravirt
+	 * muckery.
+	 */
+	if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_ART))
+		return;
+
 	static_call_update(pv_sched_clock, func);
 }
 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-07 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-14 11:09 [PATCH V2 00/11] perf intel-pt: Add perf event clocks to better support VM tracing Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 01/11] perf/x86: Fix native_perf_sched_clock_from_tsc() with __sched_clock_offset Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 02/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC as a perf event clock Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 12:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 13:03     ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 12:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 17:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-04 12:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 12:41     ` Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 03/11] perf/x86: Add support for TSC in nanoseconds " Adrian Hunter
2022-03-04 13:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-04 18:27     ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-07  9:50       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-03-07 10:06         ` Juergen Gross
2022-03-07 10:38           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-07 10:58             ` Juergen Gross
2022-03-07 12:36         ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-07 14:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-08 14:23             ` Adrian Hunter
2022-03-08 21:06               ` Hall, Christopher S
2022-03-14 11:50                 ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25  5:30                   ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25  9:32                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-25 13:15                       ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-25 17:05                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-26  6:51                           ` Adrian Hunter
2022-04-27 23:10                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16  7:20                               ` Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 04/11] perf tools: Add new perf clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 05/11] perf tools: Add API probes for new " Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 06/11] perf tools: Add new clock IDs to "perf time to TSC" test Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 07/11] perf tools: Add perf_read_tsc_conv_for_clockid() Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 08/11] perf intel-pt: Add support for new clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 09/11] perf intel-pt: Use CLOCK_PERF_HW_CLOCK_NS by default Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 10/11] perf intel-pt: Add config variables for timing parameters Adrian Hunter
2022-02-14 11:09 ` [PATCH V2 11/11] perf intel-pt: Add documentation for new clock IDs Adrian Hunter
2022-02-21  6:54 ` [PATCH V2 00/11] perf intel-pt: Add perf event clocks to better support VM tracing Adrian Hunter
2022-03-01 11:06   ` Adrian Hunter

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