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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.com>,
	KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.de>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] KVM: VMX: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:09:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <337b9577-50bc-412f-3cf3-7d366755aa76@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1517435981.18619.215.camel@infradead.org>

On 31/01/2018 16:59, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 13:53 -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we just say it sucks to be L2 too? :)  Because in the end as long as
>>> no one ever writes to spec_ctrl, everybody is happy.
>>
>> Unfortunately, quite a few OS vendors shipped IBRS-based mitigations
>> earlier this month. (Has Redhat stopped writing to IA32_SPEC_CTRL yet?
>> :-)
>>
>> And in the long run, everyone is going to set IA32_SPEC_CTRL.IBRS=1 on
>> CPUs with IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES.IBRS_ALL.
> 
> 
> I'm actually working on IBRS_ALL at the moment.
> 
> I was tempted to *not* let the guests turn it off. Expose SPEC_CTRL but
> just make it a no-op.

That would be very slow.

> Or if that really doesn't fly, perhaps with IBRS_ALL we should invert
> the logic. Set IBRS to 1 on vCPU reset, and only if it's set to *zero*
> do we pass through the MSR and set the save_spec_ctrl_on_exit flag.

... but something like that would be a good idea.  Even if IBRS to 0 on
vCPU reset, only pass it through once it's set to zero.  The first
IBRS=1 write would not enable pass through, and would not set the
save_spec_ctrl_on_exit flag.  In fact it need not even be conditional on
IBRS_ALL.

Paolo

> But let's get the code for *current* hardware done first...
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-01 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 19:37 [PATCH v5 0/5] KVM: Expose speculation control feature to guests KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] KVM: x86: Update the reverse_cpuid list to include CPUID_7_EDX KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] KVM: x86: Add IBPB support KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:45   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 19:53     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 19:55       ` Jim Mattson
2018-02-01  0:27         ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-31 20:36     ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  4:54   ` Tom Lendacky
2018-02-01 17:00   ` Raj, Ashok
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] KVM: VMX: Emulate MSR_IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] KVM: VMX: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:53   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 20:00     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 20:01     ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:18       ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 20:21         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 21:18           ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 22:05             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 20:34         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 20:54           ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:05               ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:17                 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-31 21:42                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:53                   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:59                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:59                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 22:06                       ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 22:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 22:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-31 22:53                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-01 14:09                       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-01-31 22:52         ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  0:24           ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  4:26             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-01 13:25               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-01 17:37                 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01 17:46                   ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01 14:19               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-01 14:28                 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 22:56   ` Raj, Ashok
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] KVM: SVM: " KarimAllah Ahmed

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