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From: KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.de>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] KVM: VMX: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 18:46:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2db54d3-73ab-7e24-8368-3288e9d18f14@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed251937-be2a-a922-52e9-0982c15e7764@amazon.com>



On 02/01/2018 06:37 PM, KarimAllah Ahmed wrote:
> On 02/01/2018 02:25 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 23:26 -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>
>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c
>>>> index 6a9f4ec..bfc80ff 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c
>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c
>>>> @@ -594,6 +594,14 @@ struct vcpu_vmx {
>>>>    #endif
>>>>         u64                   arch_capabilities;
>>>> +     u64                   spec_ctrl;
>>>> +
>>>> +     /*
>>>> +      * This indicates that:
>>>> +      * 1) guest_cpuid_has(X86_FEATURE_IBRS) == true &&
>>>> +      * 2) The guest has actually initiated a write against the MSR.
>>>> +      */
>>>> +     bool spec_ctrl_used;
>>>>         /*
>>>>          * This indicates that:
>>
>> Thanks for persisting with the details here, Karim. In addition to
>> Konrad's heckling at the comments, I'll add my own request to his...
>>
>> I'd like the comment for spec_ctrl_used to explain why it isn't
>> entirely redundant with the spec_ctrl_intercepted() function.
>>
>> Without nesting, I believe it *would* be redundant, but the difference
>> comes when an L2 is running for which L1 has not permitted the MSR to
>> be passed through. That's when we have spec_ctrl_used = true but the
>> MSR *isn't* actually passed through in the active msr_bitmap.
>>
>> Question: if spec_ctrl_used is always equivalent to the intercept bit
>> in the vmcs01.msr_bitmap, just not the guest bitmap... should we ditch
>> it and always use the bit from the vmcs01.msr_bitmap?
> 
> If I used the vmcs01.msr_bitmap, spec_ctrl_used will always be true if
> L0 passed it to L1. Even if L1 did not actually pass it to L2 and even
> if L2 has not written to it yet (!used).
> 
> This pretty much renders the short-circuit at
> nested_vmx_merge_msr_bitmap useless:
> 
>          if (!nested_cpu_has_virt_x2apic_mode(vmcs12) &&
>              !to_vmx(vcpu)->pred_cmd_used &&
>              !to_vmx(vcpu)->spec_ctrl_used)
>                  return false;
> 
> ... and the default path will be kvm_vcpu_gpa_to_page + kmap.
> 
> That being said, I have to admit the logic for spec_ctrl_used is not
> perfect either.
> 
> If L1 or any of the L2s touched the MSR, spec_ctrl_used will be set to
> true. So if one L2 used the MSR, all other L2s will also skip the short-
> circuit mentioned above and end up *always* going through
> kvm_vcpu_gpa_to_page + kmap.
> 
> Maybe all of this is over-thinking and in reality the short-circuit
> above is really useless and all L2 guests are happily using x2apic :)
> 

hehe ..

 >> if spec_ctrl_used is always equivalent to the intercept bit in the
vmcs01.msr_bitmap

actually yes, we can.

I just forgot that we update the msr bitmap lazily! :)

>>
>> Sorry :)
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-01 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 19:37 [PATCH v5 0/5] KVM: Expose speculation control feature to guests KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] KVM: x86: Update the reverse_cpuid list to include CPUID_7_EDX KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] KVM: x86: Add IBPB support KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:45   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 19:53     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 19:55       ` Jim Mattson
2018-02-01  0:27         ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-31 20:36     ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  4:54   ` Tom Lendacky
2018-02-01 17:00   ` Raj, Ashok
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] KVM: VMX: Emulate MSR_IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] KVM: VMX: Allow direct access to MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 19:53   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 20:00     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 20:01     ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 20:18       ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 20:21         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 21:18           ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 22:05             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 20:34         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 20:54           ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:05               ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:17                 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-31 21:42                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:53                   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 21:59                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 21:59                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 22:06                       ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-31 22:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 22:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-31 22:53                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-01 14:09                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 22:52         ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  0:24           ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01  4:26             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-01 13:25               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-01 17:37                 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-01 17:46                   ` KarimAllah Ahmed [this message]
2018-02-01 14:19               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-01 14:28                 ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-31 22:56   ` Raj, Ashok
2018-01-31 19:37 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] KVM: SVM: " KarimAllah Ahmed

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