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From: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Voluspa <lista1@comhem.se>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Adaptive Readahead V14 - statistics question...
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:40:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <348971216.13769@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20060530064026.GA4950@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060530053631.57899084.lista1@comhem.se>

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 05:36:31AM +0200, Voluspa wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the top-post, I'm not subscribed.
> 
> On 2006-05-30 0:37:57 Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:44:59PM -0400, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:
> [...]
> >> doing anything useful? (One thing I've noticed is that xmms, rather
> >> than gobble up 100K of data off disk every 10 seconds or so, snarfs
> >> a big 2M chunk every 3-4 minutes, often sucking in an entire song at
> >> (nearly) one shot...)
> >
> > Hehe, it's resulted from the enlarged default max readahead size(128K
> > => 1M). Too much aggressive? I'm interesting to know the recommended
> > size for desktops, thanks. For now you can adjust it through the
> > 'blockdev --setra /dev/hda' command.
> 
> And notebooks? I'm running a 64bit system with 2gig memory and a 7200
> RPM disk. Without your patches a movie like Elephants_Dream_HD.avi
> causes a continuous silent read. After patching 2.6.17-rc5 (more on that
> later) there's a slow 'click-read-click-read-click-etc' during the
> same movie as the head travels _somewhere_ to rest(?) between reads.
> 
> Distracting in silent sequences, and perhaps increased disk wear/tear.
> I'll try adjusting the readahead size towards silence tomorrow.

Hmm... It seems risky to increase the default readahead size.
I would appreciate a feed back when you are settled with some new
size, thanks.

btw, maybe you will be interested in the 'laptop mode'.
It prolongs battery life by making disk activity "bursty":
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/laptop_mode/

> But as size slides in a mainstream direction, whence will any benefit
> come - in this Joe-average case? It's not a faster 'cp' at least:
> 
> _Cold boot between tests - Copy between different partitions_

I have never did 'cp' tests, because it involves writes caching
problems. Which makes the result hard to interpret. However I will
try to explain the two tests.

> 2.6.17-rc5-proper (Elephants_Dream_HD.avi 854537054 bytes)
> 
> real    0m44.050s
> user    0m0.076s
> sys     0m6.344s
> 
> 2.6.17-rc5-patched
> 
> real    0m49.353s
> user    0m0.075s
> sys     0m6.287s

- only size matters in this trivial case.
- the increased size generally do not help single reading speed.
- but it helped reducing overhead(i.e. decreased user/sys time)
- not sure why real time increased so much.

> 2.6.17-rc5-proper (compiled kernel tree linux-2.6.17-rc5 ~339M)
> 
> real    0m47.952s
> user    0m0.198s
> sys     0m6.118s
> 
> 2.6.17-rc5-patched
> 
> real    0m46.513s
> user    0m0.200s
> sys     0m5.827s

- the small files optimization in the new logic helped a little

Thanks,
Wu

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-30  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-30  3:36 Voluspa
     [not found] ` <20060530064026.GA4950@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-30  6:40   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2006-05-30 16:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-31 21:06   ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-31 21:50   ` Voluspa
     [not found]     ` <20060601055143.GA5216@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-01  5:51       ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-01  6:35         ` Voluspa
2006-06-08  8:04         ` Voluspa
     [not found]           ` <20060608113731.GA5813@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-08 11:37             ` adaptive readahead overheads Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08 12:25               ` Voluspa
     [not found]                 ` <20060608123900.GA6885@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-08 12:39                   ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08 13:05                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-08 14:00                   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found] ` <448493E9.9030203@samwel.tk>
     [not found]   ` <20060606033436.GB6071@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-06  3:34     ` Adaptive Readahead V14 - statistics question Wu Fengguang
     [not found] <20060604073415.GB5405@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-04  7:34 ` [PATCH] readahead: initial method - expected read size - fix fastcall Fengguang Wu
2006-06-04  9:07   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-04  9:25     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-05  1:17       ` Voluspa
2006-06-05  8:00         ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]         ` <20060606022606.GA6071@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-06  2:26           ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08  7:31             ` Voluspa
     [not found]               ` <20060608075722.GA5515@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-08  7:57                 ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]         ` <20060606025728.GA6365@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-06  2:57           ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08  7:43             ` Voluspa
     [not found]               ` <20060608081352.GB5515@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-08  8:13                 ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08  8:28                   ` Voluspa
     [not found]                     ` <20060608085055.GA5917@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-08  8:50                       ` Fengguang Wu
2006-06-08 10:04                         ` Voluspa
     [not found]     ` <20060604121328.GA6686@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-06-04 12:13       ` [PATCH] readahead: call scheme - fix fastcall readahead_cache_hit() Fengguang Wu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-29 19:44 Adaptive Readahead V14 - statistics question Valdis.Kletnieks
     [not found] ` <20060530003757.GA5164@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-30  0:37   ` Wu Fengguang

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