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From: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>,
	Dmitri Prokhorov <Dmitry.Prohorov@intel.com>,
	Valery Cherepennikov <valery.cherepennikov@intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] perf: Rewrite enabled/running timekeeping
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 17:56:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <385005b6-51ea-383e-df81-43365f3f5152@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170904120843.oazlv73phoxoinlj@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 04.09.2017 15:08, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 01:46:45PM +0300, Alexey Budankov wrote:
>>> So the below completely rewrites timekeeping (and probably breaks
>>> world) but does away with the need to touch events that don't get
>>> scheduled.
>>
>> We still need and do iterate thru all events at some points e.g. on context switches.
> 
> Why do we _need_ to?

We do so in the current implementation with several tstamp_* fields.

> On ctx switch we should stop iteration for a PMU once we fail toschedule an event, same as for rotation> 
>>> The basic idea is really simple, we have a single timestamp and
>>> depending on the state we update enabled/running. This obviously only
>>> requires updates when we change state and when we need up-to-date
>>> timestamps (read).
>>
>> I would prefer to have this rework in a FSM similar to that below, 
>> so state transition and the corresponding tstamp, total_time_enabled 
>> and total_time_running manipulation logic would be consolidated in 
>> one place and adjacent lines of code.
>>
>> From the table below event->state FSM is not as simple as it may seem 
>> on the first sight so in order to avoid regressions after rework we 
>> better keep that in mind and explicitly implement allowed and disallowed
>> state transitions.
> 
> Maybe if we introduce something like CONFIG_PERF_DEBUG, but I fear that
> for normal operation that's all fairly horrible overhead.
> 
>>     A	  	I	    O	       E	   X	      D     U
>>
>> A   Te+,Tr+     Te+,Tr+     Te+,Tr+    Te+,Tr+     Te+,Tr+    Te+,Tr+    ---
>>     ts 	        ts          ts         ts          ts         ts
>>
>> I   Te+,ts      Te+,ts      Te+,ts     Te+,ts      Te+,ts     Te+,ts     ---
>>
>> O   Te=0,Tr=0,  Te=0,Tr=0,  Te=0,Tr=0  Te=0,Tr=0   Te=0,Tr=0  Te=0,Tr=0  ---
>>     ts          ts          ts         ts          ts         ts
>>
>> E   Te=0,Tr=0,  Te=0,Tr=0,  Te=0,Tr=0  Te=0,Tr=0   Te=0,Tr=0  Te=0,Tr=0  ---
>>     ts          ts          ts         ts          ts         ts
>>
>> X   ---         ---         ---        ---         ---        ---        ---
>>
>> D   ---         ---         ---        ---         ---        ---        ---
>>
>> U   ---         Te=0,Tr=0   Te=0,Tr=0  ---         ---        ---        ---
>>                 ts          ts          
>>
>> LEGEND:
>>
>> U - allocation, A - ACTIVE, I - INACTIVE, O - OFF, 
>> E - ERROR, X - EXIT, D - DEAD,
> 
> Not sure we care about the different <0 values, they're all effectively
> OFF.

We still need to care about proper initial state of timings when moving above >=0 state.

> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-04 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02  8:11 [PATCH v6 0/3] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:13 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] perf/core: use rb trees for pinned/flexible groups Alexey Budankov
2017-08-03 13:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 20:30     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07  7:17         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-07  8:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07  9:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 15:32               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-07 15:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 16:27                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-07 16:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 17:39                       ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-07 18:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 18:13                       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-15 17:28           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 13:39             ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 14:18               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-29 13:51             ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30  8:30               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-30 10:18                 ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30 10:30                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-30 11:13                     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30 11:16                 ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 15:22         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:15 ` [PATCH v6 2/3]: perf/core: use context tstamp_data for skipped events on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-03 13:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 14:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 15:58     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 12:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 18:47     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 12:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-04 12:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-04 14:25           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:23         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-10 15:57     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-22 20:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-23  8:54         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 17:18           ` [RFC][PATCH] perf: Rewrite enabled/running timekeeping Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-31 19:51             ` Stephane Eranian
2017-09-05  7:51               ` Stephane Eranian
2017-09-05  9:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 10:45             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-01 12:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 11:17             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-01 12:42               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 21:03             ` Vince Weaver
2017-09-04 10:46             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-04 12:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-04 14:56                 ` Alexey Budankov [this message]
2017-09-04 15:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-04 15:58                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 10:17                     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 11:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-11  6:55                         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 12:06                       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 12:59                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 16:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-06 13:48                           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-08  8:47                           ` Alexey Budankov
2018-03-12 17:43                             ` [tip:perf/core] perf/cor: Use RB trees for pinned/flexible groups tip-bot for Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:16 ` [PATCH v6 3/3]: perf/core: add mux switch to skip to the current CPU's events list on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:17 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:21   ` [PATCH v7 1/2] perf/core: use rb trees for pinned/flexible groups Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 11:17     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 17:23       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:22   ` [PATCH v7 2/2] perf/core: add mux switch to skip to the current CPU's events list on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 11:54     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 18:12       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-22 20:21   ` [PATCH v7 0/2] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-23  8:54     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12     ` Alexey Budankov

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