From: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
To: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, apw@canonical.com,
SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>,
colin.king@canonical.com, sj38.park@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] Recommend denylist/allowlist instead of blacklist/whitelist
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:16:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38ac91ab-ced3-8a4f-b825-4503fdcddeb8@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200611073804.10225-1-sjpark@amazon.com>
On 11. 06. 20, 9:38, SeongJae Park wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:35:24 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 08:25 +0200, SeongJae Park wrote:
>>> From: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>
>>>
>>> This patchset 1) adds support of deprecated terms in the 'checkpatch.pl'
>>> and 2) set the 'blacklist' and 'whitelist' as deprecated with
>>> replacement suggestion of 'denylist' and 'allowlist', because the
>>> suggestions are incontrovertible, doesn't make people hurt, and more
>>> self-explanatory.
>>
>> While the checkpatch implementation is better,
>> I'm still very "meh" about the whole concept.
>
> I can understand your concerns about politic things in the second patch.
> However, the concept of the 'deprecated terms' in the first patch is not
> political but applicable to the general cases. We already had the commits[1]
> for a similar case. So, could you ack for at least the first patch?
>
> [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Kernel-Hugs
Fuck you! replaced by hug you! is a completely different story. The
former is indeed offending to majority (despite it's quite common to
tell someone "fuck you" in my subregion; OTOH hugging, no way -- I'm a
straight non-communist). If it turns out that any word (e.g. blacklist)
offends _majority_ (or at least a significant part of it) of some
minority or culture, then sure, we should send it to /dev/null. But we
should by no means listen to extreme individuals.
thanks,
--
js
suse labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-11 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-11 6:25 SeongJae Park
2020-06-11 6:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] checkpatch: support deprecated terms checking SeongJae Park
2020-07-25 13:02 ` Michał Mirosław
2020-07-25 16:36 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-25 17:29 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-25 23:35 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 4:27 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 7:18 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 7:29 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 7:45 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 14:50 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 15:36 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 16:42 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-26 18:07 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-26 20:33 ` Michał Mirosław
2020-07-27 6:54 ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-27 20:44 ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-27 20:49 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-28 6:22 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11 6:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] scripts/deprecated_terms: Recommend denylist/allowlist instead of blacklist/whitelist SeongJae Park
2020-06-11 6:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Joe Perches
2020-06-11 7:38 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11 8:16 ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2020-06-11 8:30 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-11 8:32 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-06-11 10:43 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12 6:40 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-12 7:05 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12 14:40 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-06-14 21:29 ` Pavel Machek
2020-06-15 4:21 ` Jiri Slaby
2020-06-15 6:12 ` Pavel Machek
2020-06-15 6:46 ` SeongJae Park
2020-06-15 7:00 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-15 7:39 ` Pavel Machek
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