From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GCC 3.4 Heads-up
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:57:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FF5E952.70308@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0312252021540.14874@home.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Actually, those language extensions (while documented for a long time) are
> pretty ugly.
>
> Some of that ugliness turns into literal bugs when C++ is used.
>
> The cast/conditional expression as lvalue are _particularly_ ugly
> extensions, since there is absolutely zero point to them. They are very
> much against what C is all about, and writing something like this:
>
> a ? b : c = d;
>
> is something that only a high-level language person could have come up
> with. The _real_ way to do this in C is to just do
>
> *(a ? &b : &c) = d;
>
> which is portable C, does the same thing, and has no strange semantics.
I would probably write
( a ? b : c ) = d;
instead, having learned C when some compilers parsed ? wrong without
parens. Actually I can't imagine writing that at all, but at least with
parens humans can read it easily. Ugly code.
Your suggestion is not portable, if b or c are declared "register" there
are compilers which will not allow taking the address, and gcc will give
you a warning.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-02 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-26 1:46 Chris Meadors
2003-12-26 3:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26 4:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-26 6:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26 6:58 ` Andy Isaacson
2003-12-26 7:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26 7:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 16:13 ` David Lloyd
2004-01-02 21:57 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-01-03 21:11 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-01-04 5:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-04 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 1:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-05 1:38 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-01-05 23:49 ` Ingo Oeser
2004-01-05 2:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 4:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-05 4:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-30 1:37 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-26 11:02 linux
2003-12-26 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] <16PqK-8eK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <16RiU-2kO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <16S5h-3no-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-06 21:06 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2004-01-06 22:33 ` Richard Henderson
2004-01-06 23:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 9:54 ` Richard Henderson
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