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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Chang Seok Bae <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Disallow RDPID in paranoid entry if KVM is enabled
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:05:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b4ba9e9-dbf6-a094-0684-e68248050758@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200821081633.GD12181@zn.tnic>

On 21/08/20 10:16, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:09:01AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> One more MSR *is* a big deal: KVM's vmentry+vmexit cost is around 1000
>> cycles, adding 100 clock cycles for 2 WRMSRs is a 10% increase.
> 
> The kernel uses TSC_AUX so we can't reserve it to KVM either.

KVM only uses TSC_AUX while in kernel space, because the kernel hadn't
used it until now.  That's for a good reason:

* if possible, __this_cpu_read(cpu_number) is always faster.

* The kernel can just block preemption at its will and has no need for
the atomic rdtsc+vgetcpu provided by RDTSCP.

So far, the kernel had always used LSL instead of RDPID when
__this_cpu_read was not available.  In one place, RDTSCP is used as an
ordered rdtsc but it discards the TSC_AUX value.  RDPID is also used in
the vDSO but it isn't kernel space.

Hence the assumption that KVM makes (and has made ever since TSC_AUX was
introduced.  What is the difference in speed between LSL and RDPID?  I
don't have a machine that has RDPID to test it, unfortunately.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-21  2:50 Sean Christopherson
2020-08-21  7:24 ` peterz
2020-08-21  7:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21  7:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21  8:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-21  8:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21  9:05       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-08-21  9:22         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21  9:44           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-21  9:48             ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-21 10:07               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-22 16:42                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-16 16:54                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-21  9:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-21  9:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-21 19:55       ` hpa
2020-08-21 20:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-21  8:56 ` kernel test robot
2020-08-21 10:28 ` kernel test robot

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