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From: "Guo, Wangyang" <wangyang.guo@intel.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Lei <benjamin.lei@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tianyou Li <tianyou.li@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] sched/clock: Avoid false sharing for sched_clock_irqtime
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 10:19:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b69443c-f82c-4b73-8384-2a039d730213@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c6236a5-82b7-4d1b-9bb2-3f0d2ac186f8@linux.ibm.com>

On 1/27/2026 7:04 PM, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> Hi Wangyang, Prateek.
> 
> On 1/27/26 12:55 PM, Wangyang Guo wrote:
>> Read-mostly sched_clock_irqtime may share the same cacheline with
>> frequently updated nohz struct. Make it as static_key to avoid
>> false sharing issue.
>>
>> The only user of disable_sched_clock_irqtime()
>> is tsc_.*mark_unstable() which may be invoked under atomic context
>> and require a workqueue to disable static_key. But both of them
>> calls clear_sched_clock_stable() just before doing
>> disable_sched_clock_irqtime(). We can reuse
>> "sched_clock_work" to also disable sched_clock_irqtime().
>>
>> One additional case need to handle is if the tsc is marked unstable
>> before late_initcall() phase, sched_clock_work will not be invoked
>> and sched_clock_irqtime will stay enabled although clock is unstable:
>>    tsc_init()
>>      enable_sched_clock_irqtime() # irqtime accounting is enabled here
>>      ...
>>      if (unsynchronized_tsc()) # true
>>        mark_tsc_unstable()
>>          clear_sched_clock_stable()
>>            __sched_clock_stable_early = 0;
>>            ...
>>            if (static_key_count(&sched_clock_running.key) == 2)
>>              # Only happens at sched_clock_init_late()
>>              __clear_sched_clock_stable(); # Never executed
>>    ...
>>
>>    # late_initcall() phase
>>    sched_clock_init_late()
>>      if (__sched_clock_stable_early) # Already false
>>        __set_sched_clock_stable(); # sched_clock is never marked stable
>>    # TSC unstable, but sched_clock_work won't run to disable irqtime
>>
>> So we need to disable_sched_clock_irqtime() in sched_clock_init_late()
>> if clock is unstable.
>>
> 
> Do you this as a valid case? have you tested with CONFIG_PARAVIRT?
> 
> Lets say you have a non native sched clock such as kvm_sched_clock_read.
> tsc_init -> sets enable_sched_clock_irqtime()
>           ->mark_tsc_unstable -> if using_native_sched_clock -> 
> clear_sched_clock_stable
> 
> In this case, since clear_sched_clock_stable won't be called you may not 
> disable the
> sched clock irqtime since __sched_clock_stable_early is reset only in 
> clear_sched_clock_stable

For hypervisor, I see this path may call clear_sched_clock_stable when 
clock is unstable at init:

   kvm_init_platform() ->
   kvmclock_init() -> kvm_sched_clock_init(stable):
     if (!stable) clear_sched_clock_stable()
     paravirt_set_sched_clock(kvm_sched_clock_read)
> 
> Bigger concern(maybe) is clock source marked as stable still, though 
> called mark_tsc_unstable in
> non native sched clock?
> 
> Disclaimer: (just curious, seeing this x86 code for first time, so may 
> not know all paths)
> 

Yes, when clock mark unstable through tsc_.*mark_unstable() with 
non-native_sched_clock, clear_sched_clock_stable won't be called, thus 
sched_clock_irqtime still keep enabled.

Maybe the dedicated workqueue for sched_clock_irqtime is still needed 
considering this case.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-27  7:25 Wangyang Guo
2026-01-27 11:04 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-28  2:19   ` Guo, Wangyang [this message]
2026-01-28  3:05     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  6:26       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-28  7:18         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  7:32           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-28  7:50             ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  7:56               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-03  9:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-03 11:18 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Wangyang Guo

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