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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Wangyang Guo <wangyang.guo@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Lei <benjamin.lei@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Tianyou Li <tianyou.li@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] sched/clock: Avoid false sharing for sched_clock_irqtime
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 16:34:38 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c6236a5-82b7-4d1b-9bb2-3f0d2ac186f8@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260127072509.2627346-1-wangyang.guo@intel.com>

Hi Wangyang, Prateek.

On 1/27/26 12:55 PM, Wangyang Guo wrote:
> Read-mostly sched_clock_irqtime may share the same cacheline with
> frequently updated nohz struct. Make it as static_key to avoid
> false sharing issue.
> 
> The only user of disable_sched_clock_irqtime()
> is tsc_.*mark_unstable() which may be invoked under atomic context
> and require a workqueue to disable static_key. But both of them
> calls clear_sched_clock_stable() just before doing
> disable_sched_clock_irqtime(). We can reuse
> "sched_clock_work" to also disable sched_clock_irqtime().
> 
> One additional case need to handle is if the tsc is marked unstable
> before late_initcall() phase, sched_clock_work will not be invoked
> and sched_clock_irqtime will stay enabled although clock is unstable:
>    tsc_init()
>      enable_sched_clock_irqtime() # irqtime accounting is enabled here
>      ...
>      if (unsynchronized_tsc()) # true
>        mark_tsc_unstable()
>          clear_sched_clock_stable()
>            __sched_clock_stable_early = 0;
>            ...
>            if (static_key_count(&sched_clock_running.key) == 2)
>              # Only happens at sched_clock_init_late()
>              __clear_sched_clock_stable(); # Never executed
>    ...
> 
>    # late_initcall() phase
>    sched_clock_init_late()
>      if (__sched_clock_stable_early) # Already false
>        __set_sched_clock_stable(); # sched_clock is never marked stable
>    # TSC unstable, but sched_clock_work won't run to disable irqtime
> 
> So we need to disable_sched_clock_irqtime() in sched_clock_init_late()
> if clock is unstable.
> 

Do you this as a valid case? have you tested with CONFIG_PARAVIRT?

Lets say you have a non native sched clock such as kvm_sched_clock_read.
tsc_init -> sets enable_sched_clock_irqtime()
          ->mark_tsc_unstable -> if using_native_sched_clock -> clear_sched_clock_stable

In this case, since clear_sched_clock_stable won't be called you may not disable the
sched clock irqtime since __sched_clock_stable_early is reset only in clear_sched_clock_stable


Bigger concern(maybe) is clock source marked as stable still, though called mark_tsc_unstable in
non native sched clock?

Disclaimer: (just curious, seeing this x86 code for first time, so may not know all paths)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-27 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-27  7:25 Wangyang Guo
2026-01-27 11:04 ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-01-28  2:19   ` Guo, Wangyang
2026-01-28  3:05     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  6:26       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-28  7:18         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  7:32           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-01-28  7:50             ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  7:56               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-03  9:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-03 11:18 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Wangyang Guo

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