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From: David Relson <relson@osagesoftware.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:42:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20011022073529.00d8dcf0@mail.osagesoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15va3i-0cRXvcC@fmrl00.sul.t-online.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net> <20011021220346.D19390@vega.digitel2002.hu> <15vQtM-22TOdsC@fmrl02.sul.t-online.com> <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net>

If I correctly remember the days when I used NeXTSTEP, there were two boot 
modes.  In graphics mode, there was a status bar.  In verbose (text) mode, 
all the messages appeared.  As the boot started, there was a prompt in 
which you could specify single-user mode, verbose mode, etc.  With no 
specification, after a few seconds it would go ahead and boot.  Also, the 
mode (graphics vs text) could be set via the Preferences capability.

As a software developer, most of the time I didn't want/need the messages 
so I'd let it run in graphics mode.  Of course when the boot had a problem, 
I'd reboot and run it verbose (text) mode.

David

At 08:57 PM 10/21/01, you wrote:
>On Monday 22 October 2001 02:28, you wrote:
> > How would hiding that information make the system "easier to use" ?
>
>Because the majority of people (and especially those who haven't been reached
>by Linux yet) don't care for the messages. They are as interested in boot
>messages as you may be in reading debug information from your DVD player or
>car.
>
>Assuming you have a car with a display for the embedded computer, and you
>don't know anything about its software or hardware, you just want to drive.
>Would you prefer to see lots of cryptic messages when you turn the key, or
>just some simple picture with a progress bar showing you when the system is
>ready?
>IMHO the bar is all you need. Everything else just distracts you from the
>only important thing.
>
>Showing unimportant information is like turning on debug messages that you
>don't need.
>
>bye...
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-22 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-20 21:30 The new X-Kernel ! MichaelM
2001-10-20 21:43 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-21  0:08 ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-10-21  7:37 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 12:54   ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 15:37     ` john slee
2001-10-21 19:04       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 20:03       ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:06         ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:22         ` The new X-Kernel ! Federico Sevilla III
2001-10-21 21:31           ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:38         ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:52           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 22:39             ` Oden Eriksson
2001-10-22  4:44             ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:53           ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 22:19             ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-22  0:28               ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-10-22  0:57                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22  8:34                   ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22  0:24                     ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-23 20:50                       ` Petr Baudis
2001-10-30  2:18                         ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-22  9:37                     ` Sunil Phatak
2001-10-22  9:47                       ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22 14:33                     ` MichaelM
2001-10-22 19:13                       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 11:42               ` David Relson [this message]
2001-10-21 22:14         ` The new X-Kernel ! Leo Spalteholz
2001-10-22  5:17         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 16:09     ` Malcolm H. Teas
2001-10-21 19:04       ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 19:13   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-21 19:30     ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 19:49     ` J Sloan
2001-10-21 21:12     ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:20       ` D. Stimits
2001-10-21 21:41         ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21  8:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21  8:50   ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21  9:13   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 17:06     ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 10:26   ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 14:19     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:18       ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 17:26         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:40           ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 19:17             ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22  0:10               ` Jesse Pollard
2001-10-22  0:37                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 17:18                 ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 16:51               ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 18:35                 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-23  7:05                   ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 19:53             ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-22 17:04               ` James Simmons
2001-10-23  6:45   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-10-22  5:42 ` Dwayne C. Litzenberger
2001-10-31 17:34 ` Jim Freeman

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