From: David Relson <relson@osagesoftware.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:42:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20011022073529.00d8dcf0@mail.osagesoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15va3i-0cRXvcC@fmrl00.sul.t-online.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net> <20011021220346.D19390@vega.digitel2002.hu> <15vQtM-22TOdsC@fmrl02.sul.t-online.com> <20011022022839.A8452@unthought.net>
If I correctly remember the days when I used NeXTSTEP, there were two boot
modes. In graphics mode, there was a status bar. In verbose (text) mode,
all the messages appeared. As the boot started, there was a prompt in
which you could specify single-user mode, verbose mode, etc. With no
specification, after a few seconds it would go ahead and boot. Also, the
mode (graphics vs text) could be set via the Preferences capability.
As a software developer, most of the time I didn't want/need the messages
so I'd let it run in graphics mode. Of course when the boot had a problem,
I'd reboot and run it verbose (text) mode.
David
At 08:57 PM 10/21/01, you wrote:
>On Monday 22 October 2001 02:28, you wrote:
> > How would hiding that information make the system "easier to use" ?
>
>Because the majority of people (and especially those who haven't been reached
>by Linux yet) don't care for the messages. They are as interested in boot
>messages as you may be in reading debug information from your DVD player or
>car.
>
>Assuming you have a car with a display for the embedded computer, and you
>don't know anything about its software or hardware, you just want to drive.
>Would you prefer to see lots of cryptic messages when you turn the key, or
>just some simple picture with a progress bar showing you when the system is
>ready?
>IMHO the bar is all you need. Everything else just distracts you from the
>only important thing.
>
>Showing unimportant information is like turning on debug messages that you
>don't need.
>
>bye...
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-22 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-20 21:30 The new X-Kernel ! MichaelM
2001-10-20 21:43 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-21 0:08 ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-10-21 7:37 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 12:54 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 15:37 ` john slee
2001-10-21 19:04 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 20:03 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:06 ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:22 ` The new X-Kernel ! Federico Sevilla III
2001-10-21 21:31 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:38 ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:52 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 22:39 ` Oden Eriksson
2001-10-22 4:44 ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:53 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 22:19 ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 0:28 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-10-22 0:57 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 8:34 ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22 0:24 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-23 20:50 ` Petr Baudis
2001-10-30 2:18 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-22 9:37 ` Sunil Phatak
2001-10-22 9:47 ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22 14:33 ` MichaelM
2001-10-22 19:13 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 11:42 ` David Relson [this message]
2001-10-21 22:14 ` The new X-Kernel ! Leo Spalteholz
2001-10-22 5:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 16:09 ` Malcolm H. Teas
2001-10-21 19:04 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 19:13 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-21 19:30 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 19:49 ` J Sloan
2001-10-21 21:12 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:20 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-21 21:41 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 8:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 8:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 9:13 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 17:06 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 10:26 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 14:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 17:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:40 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 19:17 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 0:10 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-10-22 0:37 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 16:51 ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 18:35 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-23 7:05 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 19:53 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-22 17:04 ` James Simmons
2001-10-23 6:45 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-10-22 5:42 ` Dwayne C. Litzenberger
2001-10-31 17:34 ` Jim Freeman
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